Talk:Sarov

Harr, I'm from Sarov. :V —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.179.127.206 (talk • contribs).
 * That's great; now write something about your town :)&mdash;Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:59, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[quote]and Russia's secret nuclear center where Soviet nuclear weapons were created by Russia's greatest scientists.[\quote] This strikes me as odd. Were all the scientist from the RSFSR? ive changed it for now.

James Risen's book State of War
Disk 5 tracks 6 and following discuss Arzemas-60 and the Russian nuclear program. He mentions that the Nunn-Lugar bill provided money to soviet scientists to control their nuclear weapons, and to limit nuclear proliferation. Martin | talk • contribs 00:22, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Sarov
Just today I watched scenes of Sarov in not Russian TV in an hour long documentary program connected with Russian nuclear power project. I had not a slightest idea the town still is direct under Moskova adminstration, all expensies paid by Moskova Federal Admistration. In western terms this is called a colony in the area divided by Resbublika Mordovija and Nizhnyi Novgorod Oblast. A reminiscent of old colonial policy, just like Washington DC (District of Columbia), a product of early days of self governing unit under US Federal Admistration based and located in Washington DC. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.114.201.128 (talk) 14:34, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I am not sure how you imagine one would "colonize" their own country, but you might want to look through the closed city article to find out more about the actual legal status of this town. Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:21, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Intersting point of view, but can anyone name "closed town" outside Russian Federation with population nearly 100.000? Secondly, this may be the Russian practice, but not through non Russian eyes. With word Colonial I mean compare the situation, say to British military base in Cyprus, open road for all traffic goes through it and no fences around with armed quards patrolling its borders. Oldfashioned, may I say. The adminstrative border between two internal boroughs inside Russian Federation, another declared her "independence" inside Russian Federation, but the border between these two, according my map, goes through this closed area which belongs by two thirds to Mordovia and by one northern part to Nizhnij Novgorod. The state is independent or not. Same than declaring original Saame populated area in Norway, Sweden, Finland and Russian Federation (Kola Peninsula) as "independent" Respublika Lapposkaja ruled from Moscow. Or declaration of independence of Abhasia and Southern Ossetia which suppose to be internationally recognised self governing national areas inside Respublika Gruzy or Georgia in other languages. I supposed the Muscovites appeared there only in 1551, the conquered limit of the Muscovite area running about Muromi - Arzamas - Alatir line. Before that date Mordvin Inäzörs ruled their own areas but paid annual tax to Mirza of Kasaani. The Muscovite expedition reached Ohata Sea before they reached Black Sea and land north of it were ruled by Taurida Tatars. Kiev was by that time Polish - Lithuanian town as well as Smolensk, Mensk, etc. Compare also with "eternal" Deutsche Demokratische Rebublik map dating 1967 with "blank area" in the middle of it named "Separate Political Unit named West-Berlin Under Military Adminstration". Interestingly can anyone explaine why nearly all nuclear arsenal is based in the areas inhabited by the minority peoples in Russian Federation. Cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.171.7 (talk) 20:05, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

"Los Arzamas-16"
I was wondering about the Cold War significance this Russian town played. I know that Arzamas was the equivalent to the USA's Los Alamos facility, part of the larger scope of the Manhattan Project. Wondering if a possible subsection would be helpful in displaying the greater historical significance this area played in the heat of the Cold War. Micahguthrie (talk) 17:30, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
 * As long as you are using sources directly describing the parallels between Arzamas-16 and Los Alamos (as opposed to using a source dealing with Arzamas-16 and another one dealing with Los Alamos and then synthesizing them), such a subsection would not be out of place at all. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 25, 2015 ; 17:52 (UTC)

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