Talk:Satjiv S. Chahil

Lead section
There is a significant problem with the first two lines of the lead section. They read:


 * 1) He has had a significant influence in shaping marketing in Silicon Valley, connecting high-tech to the worlds of entertainment, sports, music and fashion.
 * 2) He is widely acknowledged also for his ability to drive global adoption of technology innovations.

The first has no citations. The second has 18 citations. I clicked on the first one and it was a photo page rather than an article ("Tech star"/"A marketing wiz" Fortune.com 2013) which does not really align with the statement. I think this needs to be rewritten and avoid using fluffy language and making broad claims. If a source does he say "he is influential" then it should be noted. The article at this point really loses credibility when it has 18 citations just on a single sentence, it makes it look like somebody has used those to overdo the point without consideration of if they actually support the claim.

seb26 (talk) 17:59, 3 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I removed the two sentences, it is better to just explain who he is and that's it. The 18 references, I went through all of them: a few I reintegrated back into the article, some were broken, but at least 12 were simply mentions of Chahil's name because he said something about a product, there was no comment about Chahil himself. In one source, Chahil is named as a HP spokesperson declining to comment (i.e. he doesn't even comment). This is not a source which supports he is an influential figure. This source was particularly problematic as it is a letters to the editor page, and was used to remark about a meeting between two people and how that was an important meeting. The source mentions nothing about the meeting and it wouldn't matter either because it's a personal opinion remark from a reader, not verifiable. If any of the references I removed were valuable they can be retrieved from the page history, but honestly it is not worth anyone's time to do that because they were 1 off mentions which did not explain his influence, they only contained a direct quote of his words speaking as a spokesperson for whichever company he was working for at the time of publication. More care needs to be taken in the future, it seems these sources were selected from Google only because they contained "Satjiv Chahil" as a keyword but upon further inspection they don't serve as supporting material for an article about Chahil. seb26 (talk) 12:13, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

The whole article reads like self-promotion, especially the column of photographs of the subject standing next to light entertainment celebrities. None of them give me the impression the people in the photo knew who he was. The work history seems to stop at 2005. It glides over the two things for which he's probably most notable - the shambolic MacWorld '97 presentation and his immediate removal the moment Steve Jobs returned to Apple. After joining Palm the article says that "he also drove the creation of a new paradigm for mobile computing, and during his tenure, Palm grew to become the highest-ranking mobile brand, after Nokia", two statements which are superficially impressive but don't actually mean anything. It reads like a LinkedIn profile, not the biography of a (presumably now retired) technical visionary. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 21:42, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

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