Talk:Scouting in Illinois

General
One of the Councils, and I think it was the former DAC (DuPage Area Council), owned and operated a scout camp near Plano, Illinois, which has since been sold off. And the Central Region office is on Diehl Road in Naperville, Illinois - I drive by it on occasion. The DAC used to be headquartered in Wheaton, at the Deicke center, pre-merger, and a Scout Store/Three Fires Council office exists on Roosevelt Road (IL State Route 38) in West Chicago, Illinois. (signed User:JohnDBuell, who's too lazy to sign in on someone else's PC at work. ;)

Refs
With some refs, this'd be a B-class article. Rlevse 20:33, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Historical council information to be folded in
Historical council information to be folded in -Kintetsubuffalo (talk • contribs) 20:52, 17 September 2006


 * Illinois 125 Galesburg 1919 1927 changed name to Knox-Warren 125 1927
 * Illinois 134 Moline 1916 1927 changed name to Moline Area 134 1927
 * Illinois 140 Princeton 1922 1929 merged into Kewanee Area 131 1929
 * Illinois 769 Illinois Area 1927 1932 merged into Knox-Warren 125 1932
 * Illinois 125 Knox-Warren 1927 1934 changed name to Wigwam 125 1934
 * Illinois 131 Kewanee 1920 1936 changed name to Indian Creek 131 1936
 * Illinois 131 Indian Creek 1936 1938 merged into Wigwam 125 Indiana 1939 1938
 * Illinois 125 Wigwam 1934 1940 changed name to Prairie Area 125 1940
 * Illinois 125 Prairie Area 1940 1941 changed name to Prairie 125 1941
 * Illinois 142 Rock Island Area 1916 1946 changed name to Fort Armstrong Area 142 1946
 * Illinois 134 Moline Area 1927 1959 merged into Sac-N-Fox 134 1959
 * Illinois 142 Fort Armstrong Area 1946 1959 merged into Sac-N-Fox 134 1959
 * Illinois 134 Sac-Fox (Sac-N-Fox) 1959 1967 merged into Illowa 133 1967
 * Illinois 125 Prairie 1941 1993 June 1 merged into Illowa 133 1993 June 1
 * Illinois Chrisman 1917 1918
 * Illinois Dixon 1917 1918
 * Illinois Effingham 1917 1918
 * Illinois Marissa 1917 1918
 * Illinois Paris 1917 1918
 * Illinois Robinson 1917 1918
 * Illinois Riverside 1918
 * Illinois Wheaton 1918 1919
 * Illinois Geneseo 1917 1920
 * Illinois Morris 1917 1920
 * Illinois Sycamore 1917 1920
 * Illinois Danville 1918 1920
 * Illinois Galva 1918 1920
 * Illinois Libertyville 1921 1923
 * Illinois Mount Carmel 1921 1923
 * Illinois Rockford 1921 1923
 * Illinois 135 Murphysboro 1924 1925 changed name to John A. Logan 135 1925
 * Illinois 143 Savanna 1922 1925 ended 1925
 * Illinois 652 Franklin and Williamson Counties 1924 1925 changed name to Coal Belt Area 652 1925
 * Illinois 116 Cairo 1920 1927 discontinued 1927
 * Illinois 135 John A. Logan 1925 1928 ended 1928
 * Illinois 652 Coal Belt Area 1925 1928 ended 1928
 * Illinois 685 Jefferson and Marion Counties 1924 1928 disbanded into 139 and 116 1928
 * Illinois 130 Kankakee 1923 1929 changed name to To-Perr-Ne-Bee 130 1929
 * Illinois 137 Ottawa 1924 1929 ended 1929
 * Illinois 130 To-Perr-Ne-Bee 1929 1930 ended 1930
 * Illinois 152 Egyptian 1929 1930 ended 1930
 * Illinois 127 Coles, Cumberland, Douglas Counties 1929 1931 changed name to Kaskaskie 127 1931
 * Illinois 139 National Trails 1927 1931 ended 1931
 * Illinois 127 Kaskaskie 1931 1932 disbanded into 113 and 121 1935 1932
 * Illinois 112 Alton 1920 1922 changed name to Alton-Wood River 112 1922
 * Illinois 128 Granite City 1920 1922 changed name to Tri-City 128 1922
 * Illinois 128 Tri-City 1922 1925 changed name to Cahokia Mound 128 1925
 * Illinois 112 Alton-Wood River Council 1922 1930 changed name to Piasa Bird 112 1930
 * Illinois 112 Piasa Bird Council 1930 1991 merged into Trails West 112 1991
 * Illinois 128 Cahokia Mound Council 1925 1991 merged into Trails West 112 1991
 * Illinois 112 Trails West Council 1991
 * Illinois 114 Belleville 1917 1933 changed name to Belleville Area 114 1933
 * Illinois 114 Belleville Area 1933 1936 changed name to Kaskaskia 114 1936
 * Illinois 122 East Saint Louis Area Council 1919 1936 changed name to Mississippi Valley 122 1936
 * Illinois 122 Mississippi Valley Council 1936 1965 merged into Okaw Valley 116 1965
 * Illinois 114 Kaskaskia Council 1937 1966 merged into Okaw Valley 116 1966
 * Illinois 116 Okaw Valley Council 1965
 * Illinois 117 Champaign County 1918 1923 changed name to Champaign-Urbana 117 1923
 * Illinois 665 PANS 1924 1927 changed name to Tuckabackee 665 1927
 * Illinois 665 Tuckabackee 1927 1929 changed name to Kickapoo 665 1929
 * Illinois 665 Kickapoo 1929 1932 merged into Piankeshaw 739 1932
 * Illinois 117 Champaign-Urbana 1923 1933 changed name to Arrowhead 117 1933
 * Illinois 117 Arrowhead 1933 1991 merged into Illiana 117 1991
 * Illinois 739 Piankeshaw 1926 1991 merged into Illiana 117 1991
 * Illinois 117 Illiana 1991 1992 January 1 changed name to Prairielands 117 1992 January 1
 * Illinois 117 Prairielands 1992 January 1
 * Illinois 118 Chicago 1910 1930 merged into Chicago Area 118 1930
 * Illinois 120 Cicero 1922 1933 merged into Chicago Area 118 1933
 * Illinois 118 Chicago Area 1930
 * Illinois 121 Decatur 1918 1927 changed name to ACIS 121 1927
 * Illinois 121 ACIS 1927 1929 changed name to Decatur Area 121 1929
 * Illinois 121 Decatur Area 1929 1939 changed name to Lincoln Trails 121 1939
 * Illinois 121 Lincoln Trails 1939
 * Illinois 148 Du Page County 1919 1922 changed name to Wheaton 148 1922
 * Illinois 113 Aurora 1916 1927 changed name to Aurora Area 113 1927
 * Illinois 722 DeKalb County 1925 1927 changed name to Chief Shabbona 722 1927
 * Illinois 148 Wheaton 1922 1928 merged into Du Page Area 148 1928
 * Illinois 127 Glen Ellyn 1920 1929 merged into Du Page Area 148 1929
 * Illinois 722 Chief Shabbona 1927 1931 merged into Chief Shabbona 735 1931
 * Illinois 735 Fox Valley 1926 1931 merged into Chief Shabbona 735 1931
 * Illinois 113 Aurora Area 1927 1955 changed name to Kedeka Area 113 1955
 * Illinois 123 Elgin Area 1916 1957 changed name to Fox River Valley 123 1957
 * Illinois 113 Kedeka Area 1955 1968 merged into Two Rivers 127 1968
 * Illinois 735 Chief Shabbona 1931 1968 merged into Two Rivers 127 1968
 * Illinois 123 Fox River Valley 1957 1972 merged into Two Rivers 127 1972
 * Illinois 127 Two Rivers 1968 1992 July 1 merged into Two Rivers-Du Page Area 127 1992 July 1
 * Illinois 148 Du Page Area 1928 1992 July 1 merged into Two Rivers-Du Page Area 127 1992 July 1
 * Illinois 127 Two Rivers-Du Page Area 1992 July 1 1993 January 1 changed name to Three Fires 127 1993 January 1
 * Illinois 127 Three Fires 1993 January 1
 * Illinois 146 Waukegan 1918 1924 changed name to Waukegan and North Chicago 146 1924
 * Illinois 126 Glencoe 1923 1926 merged into Waukegan and North Chicago 146 1926
 * Illinois 714 Highland Park 1925 1926 merged into Waukegan and North Chicago 146 1926
 * Illinois 146 Waukegan and North Chicago 1924 1928 changed name to Lake County 146 1928
 * Illinois 146 Lake County 1928 1935 changed name to North Shore Area 714 1935
 * Illinois 714 North Shore Area 1935 1968 merged into Evanston-North Shore Area 129 1968
 * Illinois 124 Evanston 1916 1969 merged into Evanston-North Shore Area 129 1969
 * Illinois 126 Oak Plain 1940 1971 merged into Northeast Illinois 129 1971
 * Illinois 129 Evanston North Shore Area 1969 1971 merged into Northeast Illinois 129 1971
 * Illinois 129 Northeast Illinois 1971 http://www.neic.org
 * Illinois 115 Bloomington 1920 1922 changed name to Bloomington and Normal 115 1922
 * Illinois 133 Lincoln 1921 1923 changed name to Logan County 133 1923
 * Illinois 115 Bloomington and Normal 1922 1925 changed name to Corn Belt 115 1925
 * Illinois 132 La Salle and Oglesby 1924 1926 merged into Starved Rock Area 132 1926
 * Illinois 139 Peru and Peru Township 1924 1926 merged into Starved Rock Area 132 1926
 * Illinois 138 Peoria 1918 1929 merged into Creve Coeur 138 1929
 * Illinois 734 Tazewell County 1926 1929 merged into Creve Coeur 138 1929
 * Illinois 133 Logan County 1923 1935 changed name to Prairie Trails 133 1935
 * Illinois 133 Prairie Trails 1935 1937 merged into Corn Belt 115 1937
 * Illinois 115 Corn Belt 1925 1973 merged into W. D. Boyce 138 1973
 * Illinois 132 Starved Rock Area 1926 1973 merged into W. D. Boyce 138 1973
 * Illinois 138 Creve Coeur 1929 1973 merged into W. D. Boyce 138 1973
 * Illinois 138 W.D. Boyce 1973
 * Illinois 141 Quincy Council 1919 1926 changed name to Adams County 141 1926
 * Illinois 141 Adams County Council 1926 1927 changed name to Quincy Area 141 1927
 * Illinois 141 Quincy Area Council 1927 1935 changed name to Saukee Area 141 1935
 * Illinois 141 Saukee Area Council 1935 1993 June 1 merged into Mississippi Valley 141 1993 June 1
 * Illinois 141 Mississippi Valley Council 1993 June 1
 * Illinois 144 Springfield 1919 1925 changed name to Abraham Lincoln 144 1925
 * Illinois 129 Morgan County 1924 1926 changed name to Mascoutah Area 129 1926
 * Illinois 129 Mascoutah Area 1926 1936 merged into Abraham Lincoln 144 1936
 * Illinois 144 Abraham Lincoln 1925
 * Illinois 136 Oak Park 1915 1932 changed name to Oak Park Area 136 1932
 * Illinois 136 Oak Park Area 1932 1941 changed name to Thatcher Woods Area 136 1941
 * Illinois 136 Thatcher Woods Area 1941 1993 January 1 merged into Des Plaines Valley 147 1993 January 1
 * Illinois 147 West Suburban 1918 1993 January 1 merged into Des Plaines Valley 147 1993 January 1
 * Illinois 147 Des Plaines Valley 1993 January 1 http://www.bsa-dpvc.org
 * Illinois 660 Rockford 1924 1927 merged into Blackhawk Area 660 1927
 * Illinois 706 Blackhawk Area 1925 1927 merged into Blackhawk Area 660 1927
 * Illinois 772 U. S. Grant Area 1927 1971 merged into Blackhawk Area 660 1971
 * Illinois 660 Blackhawk Area 1927
 * Illinois 702 Joliet 1925 1928 changed name to Rainbow 702 1928
 * Illinois 702 Rainbow 1928 http://www.rainbowcouncilbsa.org/
 * Illinois 751 Northwest Suburban 1926
 * Illinois 119 Chicago Heights 1919 1925 changed name to Potawatomi Area 119 1925
 * Illinois 119 Potawatomi Area 1925 1932 changed name to Direct Service 1932
 * Illinois 119 Potawattomi Trails 1937 1944 merged into Pokagon Trails 159 1944
 * Illinois 116 Ambraw-Wabash 1928 1953 changed name to Buffalo Trace 116 1953
 * Illinois 116 Buffalo Trace 1953 1955 merged into Buffalo Trace 156 1955

Merge from Camp Robert Drake

 * support the current article is no more than a stub, and there does not seem to be much in the way of notability to the site. -- Horus Kol Talk 00:31, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


 * strongly oppose the article is a stub because I don't have time right now to expand on it (note that I did not create it, just add to it). The "Scouting in Illinois " article is already lengthy, and the camp is notable to the central Illinois area, (as shown by the recent addition to the article about the camp in local press coverage).  Additionally, it is one of the few camps owned by a Scout Council that has been operating for 75 continuous years.  Just because the article is currently a stub is no reason to remove the article. Justinm1978 02:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * comment local notability is not necessarily enough to warrant an independent article - each campsite is notable in its own area or region. Also, just because the Scouting in Illinois is "lengthy" does not mean it should not be expanded even more - if there are a lot of campsites in Illinois, then maybe we should have a new article named "Scout Campsites in Illinois", but unless a very substantial amount of information is added to the Camp Robert Drake article in due time, the project will merge the articles as per the project guidelines -- Horus Kol Talk 05:25, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


 * oppose the camp does have minor notability, and has room to grow. I'm biased because it's my local camp, but I do not see it as appropriate to merge it when other camps, such as Camp Coker or D-Bar-A_Scout_Ranch, are not being recommended to merge when several other camps are.  A Scout Camp is vastly different than an independant troop campsite, and each one has a significant amount of history.  It could be argued that articles on topics such as Mic-o-Say should be merged/deleted due to their only regional/local notability.  This article should be kept, but tagged to be improved. 74.136.212.143 15:13, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * comment the Camp Coker article is a well developed article... however, I would support a merge of the D-Bar-A_Scout_Ranch, as there is no history of the site at all, and it is simply a list of facilities... the Camp Robert Drake has minimal history in the article at this time. However, if the information grew sufficiently as a section in the Illinois article, then there may be a call to recreate the article again. -- Horus Kol Talk 01:14, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose --evrik (talk) 18:49, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment looks like the consensus here is to keep. --evrik (talk) 22:26, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

ski
Ski is a huge part of camp joy and van's popularity. Ski is a soft drink that boy scouts in the area LOVE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.171.72.148 (talk) 02:33, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Chicago Area Council, Camp Bass Lake
Is it necessary for Bass Lake to be mentioned here? It seems pretty odd that it takes up a whole paragraph and the Chicago Area Council section mentions nothing else about the council itself. 64.150.16.5 (talk) 14:06, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * The issue is not the mention of Bass Lake, but the dearth of information on the council. If the section can be expanded, it can be forked to its own article; see Tidewater Council or Stonewall Jackson Area Council. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 14:39, 16 November 2009 (UTC)