Talk:Selle Français

Links for the ambitious
1. WBFSH Interstallion survey Good source of information on goals and procedures.

2. "The Opening of the Selle Francais Studbook" article by Bernard Le Courtois.

3. NASFA website please regard "About the Selle Francais" with caution.

4. French Sport Horse Breeders Society ANSF website Good source.

5. National Stud's information card on the Selle Francais

6. 2007 WBFSH Jumping rankings #2 thanks to Ideo du Thot (Arioso du Theillet), Ionesco de Brekka (Dollar du Murier), Ilostra Dark (Palestro II/Ecolit), Itot du Chateau (Le Tot de Semilly), Ideal de la Loge (Dollar du Murier), First de Launay (Laudanum)

7. 2007 WBFSH Dressage rankings #16 thanks to Diabolo St Maurice (Plein d'Espoir IV), Galant du Serein (Apache d'Adriers)

8. 2007 WBFSH Eventing rankings #2 thanks to Galan de Sauvagere (Joly Jumper), Espoir de la Mare (What A Joy), Jolly Hope de Treille (Sioux de Baugy), If You Want II (Major de la Cour), Lord de Ligniere (Hand in Glove), Literal (Queribus).

Countercanter (talk) 00:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Fast review
No problem it seems. I'm not the main author for the fr-version, article have been mainly writtn by Eponimm. --Tsaag Valren (talk) 12:36, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Horse racing
No mention of the success of SF horses in horse racing??? Definitely an area that needs coverage  Tigerboy1966  16:00, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Last paragraph of "Uses" section has a sentence or two. Thoughts?   Montanabw (talk) 00:17, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out: I'd overlooked that ection.  Tigerboy1966  11:39, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It won't surprise you to learn that racing people are quite sloppy with terminology. In the 90's the term SF was sometimes used for any French non-Tb. What we can say is that many successful NH horses have SF ancestry. Here's an article from the Racing Post looking at the pedigree of First Gold.


 * Tigerboy, if you have more good sources we could add to the "uses" section on this, it would be cool. Do we link to National Hunt racing (Just UK) or to Steeplechasing (Worldwide)?   Montanabw (talk) 22:09, 13 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I think Steeplechasing would be more recognised interntionally as a term for races in which horses have to jump obstacles, but might cause some confusion as in Britain and Ireland it denotes a specific type of National Hunt racing.  Tigerboy1966  19:20, 21 March 2014 (UTC)


 * User:Tigerboy, my apologies for taking so long to respond. Do you have any good sources that discuss the overall use of Selle Francais for breeding race horses, or their affect on the sport? I am having a hard time finding a good overview source that is reliable enough to be used in a good/featured article. The terminology is definitely sloppy in a few spots, and it doesn't help that the Selle Francais breed designation is based more on the studbook trials than on actual breeding. I think that the majority of horses used for racing are actually technically AQPS ("other than Thoroughbred") (that's another article I need to work on!), but from some brief mentions I have seen, it would not surprise me if a number of them had SF blood. Dana boomer (talk) 14:44, 21 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Here's an article which gives decent overview and addresses some of the terminology issues (without solving them). An infusion of non-Tb blood does seem to yield good results  but can cause some confusion: I have rewritten the lede of Barton (horse) several times.  Tigerboy1966   19:20, 21 March 2014 (UTC)