Talk:Sesame oil/Archive 1

Nutritional Benefits?
For all the information in this artcle, there is no laymen's breakdown of the nutritional value of sesame oil. Granted, I'm sure other people are different, but that's the only reason *I* came here. - October 25, 2007

-- The nutrition content of Sesame seed is available thanks to this link in reference 3 of the main article:-

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrientprofile&dbid=19

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=84

What is still unclear is how the nutrient content is impacted during the extraction and refining of the various types of oils like cold pressed, refined, toasted etc. J mareeswaran 20:19, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Removed NOT REFERENCED banner
Agreed that not all references may be research papers, but most of the references are detailed in nature and since they are all web-links it is very easy to check their content to see if it is a valid reference -- J mareeswaran 05:38, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Anecdotal evidence is not evidence
"Sesame oil is least prone, among cooking oils, to turn rancid. This is because it has a very high boiling point." is an unacceptable reasoning. Having a high boiling point does not not mitigate tendency to turn rancid.

Anecdotal evidence is not enough. A comparative listing of boiling points of various oils should be necessary and sufficient. Someone should verify the boiling points of various oils and list it here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.60.148.226 (talk) 15:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

The "BOILING POINTS" (It is actually the smoke point) are available under the wikipedia entry cooking oils in a tabulated format. It absolutely doesn't give any clarity because the smoke points are notorious for being very difficulto to determine in a precise manner. Which is why we have to go by anecdotal evidence that sesame oil was once upon a time the only oil used for cooking in the world, atleast in India.

J mareeswaran 21:02, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Photo
Can we get a better photo of sesame oil (that actually shows the oil)? Badagnani 23:52, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Vitamin E/Cholestersol claim
I revised the language and added a reference to the vitamin E/cholesterol claim in the "vitamins and minerals" subsection of the "alternative medicines" section. However the reference is 10 years old and may not reflect current knowledge. If someone knows a better source, please change it and the claim. &#91;&#91;fltchr&#93;&#93; (talk) 05:20, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Baby/Infant Massage
I have removed the unreferenced research abstract under massage and added a single line referenced entry under general claims.J mareeswaran (talk) 12:31, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

"Lack of sufficient medical study
I'm removing the unsourced statement that the absence of a peer-reviewed study on long-term consumption is justification for caution among vulnerable populations. Note that researchers don't choose areas of study in a random fashion. Research projects require funding, and funding is granted to studies likely yielding meaningful results. Following the original author's reasoning, people should be cautious about consuming apples, breathing air, and walking forwards instead of backwards, because no peer-reviewed studies have been conducted to assess the potential threats of these behaviors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.241.146 (talk) 06:27, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

IP edits
Per its contribs, IP 2601:86:3:10E0:D8CF:5621:BC2D:6C64 has been trying to edit war the following into the article...


 * Health effects

Substitution of sesame oil, as the sole edible oil, lowered blood pressure in hypertensive patients who were taking diuretics and ß-blockers. Sesame oil also has beneficial effects on the levels of triglyceride, electrolytes, lipid peroxidation, and antioxidants. Sesame Oil shows promise in decreasing high levels of cholesterol and inflammation, lowering risks of atherosclerosis, and delaying the onset of cardiovascular diseases in 12 studies involving mice and 2 studies involving humans.

Diabetes — A 2006 study published in the Journal of Medicinal Food found that sesame oil used as the sole oil in your diet helps with lowering both blood pressure and plasma glucose in hypertensive diabetics. •Multiple sclerosis (MS) — In mice studies, sesame oil helped protect mice from developing autoimmune encephalomyelitis, leading researchers to believe that it may react similarly in human patients with MS. Other research indicates that it also might be effective in managing Huntington's disease, a fatal disorder that kills brain cells.

•Atherosclerosis — The sesamol in sesame oil was found to have an impact on the atherosclerotic process, in that its fatty acid and non-ester lipid components appeared to inhibit atherosclerosis lesions when mice were put on a sesame seed diet. •Cancer — High concentrations of sesomol and sesamin in sesame oil have been found to induce mitochondrial apoptosis in colon cancer, as well as in prostate, breast, lung, leukemia, multiple myeloma and pancreatic cancers.

OK, so per WP:MEDRS, content about health should be sourced to either a) recent (say last 5 years or so) literature reviews in high quality journals, or b) statements by major medical or scientific bodies (like the NHS in the UK, the NIH (itself) in the US, the CDC in the US, the WHO, the EMA. that sort of thing.

What do we have?


 * Sankar 2007 is PMID 17876372.  This is a primary source that is 11 years old. Not OK per MEDRS (see WP:MEDDEF)
 * This is popular media discussing a clinical trial that published in 2003. Not OK per the WP:MEDREV section on MEDRS, and too old as well.
 * This is popular media discussing a clinical trial that published in 2003. Not OK per the WP:MEDREV section on MEDRS, and too old as well.


 * Undated (!) piece on website of San Francisco Chonicle. Popular media is not a secondary source per MEDRS (see WP:MEDDEF)
 * Undated (!) piece on website of San Francisco Chonicle. Popular media is not a secondary source per MEDRS (see WP:MEDDEF)


 * Well this is at least dated. But like the one above. Popular media is not a secondary source per MEDRS (see WP:MEDDEF)
 * Well this is at least dated. But like the one above. Popular media is not a secondary source per MEDRS (see WP:MEDDEF)


 * Mercola. Nope. Not MEDRS, not by a mile.
 * Mercola. Nope. Not MEDRS, not by a mile.

Nothing is here is useable. Jytdog (talk) 03:30, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * ''7 Amazing Sesame Oil Benefits!?! -- Tell me more! LOL-- Dloh cier ekim  (talk) 03:33, 7 May 2018 (UTC)


 * :) I made a mistake and left a source out:




 * The conclusion says "SO (sesame oil) research shows promise in decreasing high levels of cholesterol and inflammation, lowering risks of atherosclerosis, and delaying the onset of cardiovascular diseases.... SO has not had many clinical trials, and the benefits relative to other oils and medications still need to be investigated. This literature review found that the benefits of SO vary between studies due to the methodology of SO product, dose dependence, and examination of different variables. Many of these studies are limited because they do not isolate the benefit of SO in humans alone and because there are different concentrations of SO used in each study"


 * What that is saying, is "we don't know". We do not hype "maybe" stuff in WP. There are zillions of things that may be good for you or may be bad for you. Jytdog (talk) 03:38, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I just added a bit of content using this source and saying that, in plain English. Jytdog (talk) 03:46, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Translation to Akkadian as Ellu
The current opening paragraph's last line declares "Akkadian language it is called as Ellu". How is this relevant to a beginning definition of what sesame oil is? Is the encyclopedia now a place to list translations of words in obscure, extinct languages just to provide a link to another article and cite a reference? geez, people -maxnort108.16.138.132 (talk) 23:32, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

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