Talk:Seychellois Creole people

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This article claims that the creole population is of East African and Malagasy origin. I would have to disagree because the creole population does not consist of a single 'racial' group,rather the 70% of creoles are descendents of Malgasy,Esat Africans, Indian,Chinese and French settlers.The creole population is a mixed race population with each person having racial features of more than one race.Many are the descendents of French sailors who married afican woman(because of the relatively few french woman on the islands.Others are descended from white landowners having children with their slave...so before the mid 19th century seychelles had a large mixed race population.The influx of Asians added to the rich mixture.The Creole identity can be seen as a linguistic identity.All the mixed race no matter of their country of Origins speak creole, which is derived from 18th century french but with a strong contribution( especially grammar) from East Africa.One would struggle to find purely African words in creole.The article claims that the creole leaves the other ethnic groups in peace. What other ethnic groups aside from expatriates??There are none. There are no Indian Seychellois,African seychellois or French seychellois...they are all creoles!Seychellois.The other concepts have been invented to serve for nationalistic purposes, for the tourism industry.Yes,we do have a proud creole culture that does not belong to any racial group.It belongs to all!lest we forget the tendencies to create differences where there are none.Hutus and Tutsies speak the same languages and share an identical culture,but the gradual separation by politicians into two groups led to genocide!In bosinia,Serbo-croats suddenly became Serbs,croats and Bosniaks!So please spare us the history.

That may be partially correct, but not completely. Not the entire population of the Seychelles are mixed. I, being from Mauritius, have visited the Seychelles and have numerous Seychellois contacts. I do happen to know a number of purely Indo-Seychellois and Franco-Seychellois. The entire popultion of a country cannot just dissolve from four or five groups of completely backgrounds into a single ethnic group (keeping in mind that there are peoples descended of East Africa, Madagascar, France, China and India). Even under population statistics they are listed individually rather than together. I admit that the Creole population may not just consist of East Africans and Malagasy people, but that is the way they are usually described. I even know some Creoles from the Seychelles who claim to be, as they call it, "pure-blooded" descendants of Africans, and I know a society of Seychellois principally made up of pure Indo-Seychellois. The Seychelles is a country with many historic links to Mauritius and Reunion. They have derived much the same language, custom and culture. If Mauritius and Reunion are open to being multicultural and celebrating the different peoples found across the islands, why not the Seychelles? and one last note- you claim that 70% are descended of mixed backgrounds- well what about the remaining 30%? and about the "what other ethnic groups??????" if you live in the Seychelles, find out about these "new" different ethnic groups by traveling around. If not, then do some research.

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I'm not 100% sure whether thet are even part of modern Seychellois culture, let alone being present in the genes of the population --Maurice45 (talk) 16:22, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Meaning of Native
This article states that "Seychellois Creole people are ... native to Seychelles". However, the article on Seychelles states that the archipelago "was uninhabited prior to being encountered by Europeans in the 16th century". If that is the case, then "native" should not apply to the Seychellois Creole people, or more precisely, it should not be used to differentiate their status from that of any other ethnic group living on Seychelles. In this respect, the history of Seychelles is in clear contrast with that of other places, such as America or Australia, which were inhabited at the time of being "encountered" by Europeans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.15.111.134 (talk) 00:43, 18 November 2021 (UTC)