Talk:Shaw-Stewart baronets

No hyphens for Scottish family chiefs
Bolton consistently uses the name Shaw Stewart, and the book includes a preface on p. v by Lucinda Shaw Stewart, with no hyphens. On this basis, I'll move the page to Shaw Stewart baronets. . dave souza, talk 17:01, 16 September 2013 (UTC) archiveurl added 13:05, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Ludo featured by the BBC –. . dave souza, talk 21:04, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
 * . . dave souza, talk 21:21, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The BARONETCY is hyphenated and reliable sources consistently hyphenate it, period. The name of the baronetcy is not decided by the Standing Council of Scottish Chiefs. The name is hyphenated on the Roll of the Baronetage. If then you are going to claim the Roll of the Baronetage, Burkes, Debrett's and the majority of news articles are wrong, then you will need consensus to overrule them. Deciding it's not hyphenated based on Scottish chief guidelines violates WP:SYNTH. —МандичкаYO 😜 21:28, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The Court of the Lord Lyon (the Lyon Court) is a standing court of law which regulates heraldry in Scotland. The Lyon Court maintains the register of grants of arms, known as the Public Register of All Arms and Bearings in Scotland, as well as records of genealogies. . . dave souza, talk 06:32, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 * The Roll of the Baronetage website linked above shows "Sir Ludovic Houston Shaw-Stewart, 12th Baronet", but Ludo styles himself as "Sir Ludovic Shaw Stewart" on his letter reproduced at . The outline at shows under 1797: Following the death of his great uncle Sir John Stewart, 4th Baronet, took the name “Shaw” in tribute thereby creating the name “Shaw Stewart”. Consistent with that,  consistently shows Shaw Stewart without a hyphen, as does  For another source, G Blair (1907) Greenock Street Names: Their History and Romance "Chapter 1 - The Shaw Stewart Family" refers in the third paragraph to "the Shaw-Stewart family", then thereafter omits the hyphen: it states that in Ardgowan House "a silver tablet may be found bearing the following inscription ... The whole built by Sir John Shaw Stewart, Bart., of Greenock and Blackhall." It then goes on "to give a short account of the Shaw Stewart Family". Haven't checked other histories yet, but it's clear that the normal reference in Scotland is to the Shaw Stewart family. Usage of hyphens in the English peerage is apparently different, hence The Daily Telegraph obituary.  . . dave souza, talk 13:03, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

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