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There's too much in this article which doesn't make sense at the moment. She was born in 1903 and in 1910? She was hostess to her father from 1938 on, even though he died in 1937? She "gave up politics" even though it is not made clear that she ever took up politics in the first place? Fram (talk) 15:05, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your comments on this article which is in progress. Please do not move articles to draft without discussion. You may prefer to see them there but thats just your view. Most ppl consider taking politics at university to show some interest.... and thats what the source says. Victuallers (talk) 22:21, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Whenever I see an article with such blatant issues (but with potential), I´ll move it to draftspace, without prior discussion (which would defeat the purpose of getting such a problematic article away from public view asap). Please take a lot more care when putting articles on the mainspace, as they way too often have major issues (see also the CCI of your articles, and the completely insufficient attribution you give when copying from other articles). And no, studying politics doesn´t equate to going into or later giving up politics. Fram (talk) 08:23, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Luckily the system reserves a special tag for editors who move articles without discussion when they are returned to main space. Please do not do this. I understand that it looks authorative but it isnt collaborative and it doesnt assist your suggestions. Victuallers (talk) 09:11, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
...which isn´t what we were discussing. The previous posts were about moving an article to draft, you now start about moving an article to draft again. Oh well, everything to avoid discussing the fundamental issues with your creations I guess. Fram (talk) 09:42, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
...See the title that you gave this discussion..in denial? Cheers. Victuallers (talk) 13:15, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I explained why I moved (past tense) this article to draft. I haven´t moved it again after it was moved back to mainspace, I haven´t even hinted at it in any way. Please stop your gaslighting. Fram (talk) 21:01, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
