Talk:Sheriff of Yorkshire

Jza's vandalism of referenced information
In this edit Jza removes two sources without putting in an edit summary; one from Politics.co.uk, a neutral website on British politics which calls the Act controversial and he also removes a reference showing that pressure groups, namely the Association of British Counties would like to restore the titles back to traditional counties. This is clearly an on going behavioural issue with Jza who gets into tussles with NUMEROUS people on the topic for anti-British culture and traditional counties attacks on articles. I suggest that, instead of bullying Yorkshire articles by removing referenced information which is in full following with Wikipedia guidelines and policies, that he instead go back to writing about an local administrative entity which was in practice from 1974 until 1986. This attack on a culture would NOT be accepted on articles on Brittany, Catalonia or other such places and will not be here.- Yorkshirian (talk) 06:24, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Please take a look at our policy on No personal attacks as this looks like a clear attack on another user to me. Keith D (talk) 10:00, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Quite. I think that will have to be forwarded on to the RfC and arbitration - it doesn't warrent a response per WP:TALK.


 * Re this "vandalism", please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Yorkshire. Forcing "Controversy" upon our readers isn't appropriate. --Jza84 | Talk  11:31, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Sir William Harrington - inconsistency
The page for Sir William Harington KG, of Farleton, Hornby, etc, says he was Sheriff of Yorkshire 4 times, from 1408. This list gives him only one term, and gives the other 3 to a different Sir William, of Aldingham, the 5th Baron.

The two Williams are noted as difficult to distinguish and often confused in secondary sources. On the face of it, the Farleton man looks the more obvious bet. His wife had Yorkshire property, to which the family relocated. His son Sir Thomas and grandson Sir James were both prominent in Yorkshire public life. The Aldingham line isn't noted for Yorkshire connections and the 5th Baron isn't noted for anything much.

So it would be useful to know why the source for this page goes for the surprising option. One possible source of confusion is the belief that the KG was killed at Agincourt. This was propagated in a footnote in Complete Peerage 1st edition Vol IV p 169 (e). This is evidently wrong, but obviously resulted in misidentification of records while it was current. - FitzwilliamDarcy (talk) 07:38, 8 November 2016 (UTC)


 * you emended this about five years ago--any idea? The original list labeled them all "Sir William Haryngton", and the List & Index Society's list calls them all "William Haryngton, Knt.". I assume that these are all references to Sir William of Farleton. Choess (talk) 15:08, 8 November 2016 (UTC)


 * I accept that I amended the list of High Sheriffs of Yorkshire on 21 July 2011 to change Sir William Harygton to Sir William Harington, 5th Baron Harington (3 entries) but unfortunately can offer no explanation for my actions after all this time. But I can't imagine it was because the rumours of his death at Agincourt were exagerated. It does seem I made a boo-boo and that the Sir William Harington of Farleton held the post all 4 times. Have you seen https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.genealogy.medieval/VMpmkxO4vOU which has a lot of useful background about the two main players, who appear to be cousins. In the circumstances it would seem best to change all 4 entries to link to William Harrington (knight) (which article probably didn't exist at the time of my edit). Plucas58 (talk) 17:06, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I wasn't trying to cast aspersions—I've made misidentifications of this sort, too, I just wanted to know if this had a particular source. I appreciate the informative thread. Choess (talk) 17:26, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

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