Talk:Shibli–Umm al-Ghanam

Infobox oddities
In the infobox we read:
 * Šibbli - ʔumm ˀel-Rárem (Israeli pronunciation)
 * Also spelled 	Shibli-Umm al-Janam (officially)

Both of the above data are entirely counter-intuitive. While, in the first case, the first R of "Rárem" is an expected Hebrew approximation of Arabic غ, the second R is apparently an error, as there is no difficulty in pronouncing ن/נ. I'll correct this now.

The second case is more problematic. Transliterating غ as J appears counter-intuitive, but an editor placed "(officially)" after it, so I'll request a cite for the moment. Thanks for any help. --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 23:37, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Name of town
The name of this town is Arab al-Shibli. Google books brings back 75 hits for that name in quotes and 1 hit for Shibli Umm al-Ghanem. The page should be moved to the most commonly used name in reliable secondary scholarly sources. Any objections?  T i a m u t talk 20:28, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Upon further investigation, it seems that Arab al-Shibli was merged with Umm al-Ghanem by the Israeli authorities to form a local council with this new name. Our article briefly mentions this but mistranscribes the name of ?arab al-Shibli as simply Shibli. I'll try to expand the article with more info on the history of these places.  T i a m u t talk 20:33, 14 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Kh. Umm el Ghanem (or Ghanam) is in the usual places like SWP. I don't see Shibli on any maps, though it is mentioned as a tribe. Zerotalk 23:06, 14 June 2012 (UTC)