Talk:Shin'yō Maru incident

Merge
To avoid inadvertent forking or duplication of content it makes sense to merge the two articles on the sinking and the ship itself - which seems to have had no other notable activity). GraemeLeggett (talk) 17:57, 23 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Definately not, the incident is much more notable than the ship though I guess I can see your point, and I didn't write it just to have it merged. The incident did not involve the sinking of just one ship, it was a naval battle in which the Shinyo Maru was the most remembered part. The event is certainly notable enough to have it's own article on wiki (for example we wouldn't merge the USS Cole bombing article with the USS Cole ship article). The Shiyo Maru ship article should be reserved for the vessel's characteristics, its career before the incident, and only has to briefly mention the sinking incident (You and I could watch the page to make sure nobody duplicates anything). We can leave the specifics for her sinking, and the massacre/friendly fire incident/naval battle, for this page.--$1LENCE D00600D (talk) 22:34, 24 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Oppose merge, common practice is that the ship is notable for an independent article. Benea (talk) 03:14, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Ship image
Having studied this a little more, I'm going to remove this image identified as being the Shinyo Maru. Navsource identifies it as being the Shinyo Maru sunk by USS Paddle, and I'm fairly sure they are wrong to do so. The craft in this picture is much too big to be the vessel described as the Shinyo Maru, which was around 3000 GRT. this website lists the hell ships, including Shinyo Maru, and has a picture here that they identify as Shinyo Maru, a vessel much closer to the size described. Wrecksite uses the same picture.

Navsource have probably read too much into the hand written caption in the lower left corner, which does say Shinyo Maru. This is almost certainly a different ship of the same name, and given her design, I'd place it as a turn-of the century passenger liner. This poster is of a Shinyo Maru that is practically identical to the one in navsource's picture, the 14,000 ton GRT Shinyo Maru of the Toyo Kisen Kaisha, delivered in 1911 and broken up by 1936. Benea (talk) 04:27, 27 July 2011 (UTC)