Talk:Shindand

Ethnography
Izady and others, please don't change or remove sourced information on wikipedia. According to Iranica and ALL sources Shindand has Pashtun majority and Pashto is mostly spoken.

see http://paropamisus.wordpress.com/category/shindand/: "Shindand - with a majority of its population ethnically Pashtun ..."

see Encyclopedia of Islam "Pashto is spoken in south-eastern Afghanistan from north of Jalalabad to Kandahar, and from there westwards to Sabzawar (Shindand)." .deShinDand (talk) 04:20, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Unless of course, one stops using selective, and often non-precise sources like the "Parpasmisus" web site, or the Encyclopedia of Islam that has lost much credibility since 1970s on any subject that is not Arab. How about visiting Sabzawar/Shindand and noting for one's self what is the common language in the city? Or perhaps, using colonial British data, Soviet ethnographical studies, or even modern American anthropological works instead? Or perhaps, "facts as should be" is more important to you Panshtun nationalists than "Facts as they are." This bodes ill for the future of Afghanistan as a stable multi-ethnic society where the younger generation of one group--in this case  the Pashtuns--try to disinherit the other from their title to their home areas. Serbians tried that in old Yugoslavia. And what did they get? A dismembered territory, bloodshed and ethnic cleansing. And who lost big in that balance? The Serbs. Lets hope that the older, more prudent Pashtuns can reign in the gong-ho Pashtu youngsters who have already begun their war on truth and the other ethnic groups living in Afghanistan, here on the pages of Wiki. I will no longer correct this falsehood because I can never match the energy of a zealot. So, Pashtun "deShinDand", go ahead and have it your way. You can falsify the facts here, but the facts on the ground remain unchanged, and the zealotry of the young Pashtuns like you will ultimately lead to fragmentation of Afghanistan. Izady209.105.152.213 (talk) 01:03, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I´ve deleted the irrelevant information about the origine of dand in shindand. Reason for it was that the term is not only an eastern-Iranian word (as we can assume the word is not adopted over Baluchi or Persian in Pashtu) but also exists in various other western-Iranian languages, such in Tati, the nw-Iranian dialect of the Iranian population of Azerbaidjan. In plus, the word exists in some other ancient and modern languages as well, such in welsh and old-german.

I also rewrote the information about the population of Shindand. Since there was never a census the claim Pashtuns make the majority in the city was unsourced and not explained. Neverlessness, the Pashtun Durranis settled there in the early 20th century during Abdurrahman´s follower. We have some information about the Pashtun majority there but they are from the era of Zaher Shah and Daud Khan and all differ greatly from eachother. Those from Daud´s era count 50% while during Zaher´s Pashtuns number made about 35%. Behind the numbers we can see a strong political movement. It would be easy to write non-Pashtuns make the majority there but we can´t source that claim, too tough it would maybe the fact. --188.107.8.82 (talk) 13:46, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Requested move 13 September 2016

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The result of the move request was: pages moved. (non-admin closure) GeoffreyT2000  ( talk,  contribs ) 21:36, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

– Clearly per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, and WP:CONCISE. There is only one "Shindand" city in Afghanistan, and the district (Shindand District of Afghanistan) is named after it. The small village Shindand, Pakistan is not a city, nor does it have any noticeable significance. When a user searches for "Shindand", they very likely mean the Afghan city Shindand, not a tiny village in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas of Pakistan. A Google search for "Shindand" almost exclusively returns results for the Shindand of Afghanistan and things named after it (e.g. Shindand Air Base). A Google Books search also have only results for the Shindand city of Afghanistan. Khestwol (talk) 16:13, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Shindand, Herat → Shindand
 * Shindand → Shindand (disambiguation)
 * Support move as nom. There seems to be no one opposing the move. Khestwol (talk) 21:33, 15 September 2016 (UTC)


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