Talk:Shuping Wang

Images
I don't think the image of Gao Yaojie should be included when we don't have a picture of Wang herself. Casual readers could easily mistake Gao's picture as that of Wang, as I initially did. -Zanhe (talk) 20:23, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree. I have reached out to two FlickR users who have photographs of Shuping Wang. Hopefully we will get a photo of her soon. If you can find a suitably licensed photograph elsewhere, that would be great too! Surtsicna (talk) 21:40, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 * We just can't use non-free just yet. I dunno if anyone has connection to U of Utah either as they may have something. I did try to caption Gao's picture to be clear this is not Wang. --M asem (t) 21:52, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, of course. That is why I said "suitably licensed". I have asked two FlickR users whether they could change the licenses of their photographs of Wang. Surtsicna (talk) 22:20, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

One of the FlickR users I had contacted uploaded the photograph currently in the article, and it's superb. Surtsicna (talk) 10:20, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Name order
We have a bit of a problem here. There is a notice on top which explains that the native form of Wang's name is Wang Shuping. The same notice goes on to say that the article "uses Western name order when mentioning individuals". But then the article does not consistently use the Western name order (Gao Yaojie is in Chinese order), not even for the subject herself (who is twice named Zou Shuping). I have removed the notice for being misleading. Hopefully there is a better way to deal with this. Surtsicna (talk) 09:29, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK
I have nominated the article for DYK. You can see the nomination at Template:Did you know nominations/Shuping Wang. This was a beautiful example of cooperation. Special thanks to Masem for jumping in minutes after the article was created and writing the bulk of it; and to DCowhig for responding promptly to my request and providing the photographs. Hopefully the article and the photograph can be featured on the Main Page on Dr Wang's birthday, 20 October. Surtsicna (talk) 12:11, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for creating this article. I saw the news on BBC news website, but with my intermediate English didn't dare to start that huge work, also having zero knowledge about the medical topics. PoetVeches (talk) 19:22, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Her family
According to https://www.larkinmortuary.com/obituary/shuping-wang/, she had three children—(from old to young) S. Geng, D. Zou and B. Zou. D. Zou was most probably born in the early 1990s (deduced from linkedin profile). Dr Wang moved to US in 2001 (aged 42) and remarried in 2005.

However, Washington Post reported that "her first marriage, in China to Honghai Geng, ended in divorce amid her whistleblowing campaign".

There must be lapses in the news, so I suggest the info about her family members be rewritten or omitted. It could be rewritten as "Dr Wang was married to Geng but marriage ended because of state pressure. She married Christensen in 2005. She had three children, S. Geng, D. Zou and B. Zou." That is, do not say that "she had two children with him (Christensen)".--Roy17 (talk) 12:47, 28 September 2019 (UTC)


 * These two Chinese articles (in 2007 and 2012) should be more accurate than the recent English news in the account of Dr Wang's career.
 * https://archive.is/QvB44
 * https://web.archive.org/web/20190928130222/https://www.rfa.org/cantonese/features/hottopic/feature_aids-11282012104859.html --Roy17 (talk) 13:09, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , thank you for your research, but I think it's better to avoid adding any details about usual people from family to save their privacy. Wikipedia is not like pesky paparazzi, isn't it :) It is better here to concentrate on Doctor's public health achievements. I think privacy is very important. How do you think? PoetVeches (talk) 19:11, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Do not wrap headings in markup, which may break their display and also cause additional accessibility issues
, this is not important, but "Do not wrap headings in markup, which may break their display and also cause additional accessibility issues" - that is just I found about style of headings (Manual of Style), so I thought "straight" quotation marks were the best choice at heading. But this is not important, of course, just trifle. PoetVeches (talk) 23:02, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Italics are fine in headers, they are not considered potential page-breaking considerations. (They are used all the time in film and other media pages). No worries. --M asem (t) 23:34, 30 September 2019 (UTC)