Talk:Shuvalan FK

Move?

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The result of the move request was no consensus. —harej (T) 06:53, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


 * FK Olimpik Baku → Olimpik-Şüvəlan PFC &mdash; Club recently changed their name. NovaSkola (talk) 16:24, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * If so, better redirect to it from Olimpik-Suvelan PFC. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The English-language source in the article uses "Olimpik-Shuvalan". —   AjaxSmack   01:30, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The source AjaxSmack refers to has a general policy of writing Azerbaijani letters such as ü as the closest unmodified basic Latin letter. The president of Azerbaijan, for example, whose name is İlham Əliyev, is referred to by the same source as Ilham Aliyev.  Thus, the fact that the source uses Olimpik-Shuvalan rather than Olimpik-Şüvəlan tells us nothing about how to write in English the name of the team specifically.  English does not have an established usage with regard to Olimpik-Şüvəlan, so per UE, the native spelling is prescribed. --Atemperman (talk) 19:34, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I wasn't arguing for a particular title and I don't approve of an undiscussed move in the middle of an RM discussion. However, note that Wikipedia's article on İlham Əliyev is at Ilham Aliyev.  Wikipedia tends to use transliterations from the old Cyrillic forms rather than actual Azeri Latin forms, following the practice of most English media.  —   AjaxSmack   23:59, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


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If editors form a consensus that Azerbaijani names should be written with a Latin transliteration from what the Cyrillic representation of the name would be, and there is a standard transliteration used by authoritative English-language sources or WP editors agree on such a transliteration, then there is no problem keeping the article name where it is now. Absent such a consensus, however, WP:UE#No_established_usage prescribes the native spelling of the club's name. Moreover, the club was formed after the Soviet-era Cyrillic alphabet was disestablished, so in this case, there is no old Cyrillic form from which to transliterate. --Atemperman (talk) 18:33, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Also, it seems curious that the admin found there to be no consensus. Two editors supported the move, and two neither supported nor opposed it.--Atemperman (talk) 18:33, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Good point. The easiest way to deal with it would be to reopen a move request.  you could also try to appeal it at WT:RM but there is no formal appeals process and admins generally don't like their judgments questioned (though I'm not assuming this of User:harej per WP:AGF).  I undid the no consensus move to Olimpik-Shuvalan to clarify the issue.  —   AjaxSmack   00:46, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, according to the club's and Azerbaijani Football Federation's official website, club changed it's name and the logo.--NovaSkola (talk) 06:34, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

merged here
I've merged and redirect to here because I can't see a reason for the split. The article and section aren't big enough to warrant their own page. Plus (with a few changes) the content was copied directly over and there was not attribution. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 04:46, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

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