Talk:Skandar Keynes

About External Links
I have seen many people adding other websites as well, like skandarkeynesfan. I have only seen skandar_rox put up once, and many other fansites have been trying to put up theirs as well. How come just put up skandar.net when there is so many other fansites that are very good?

--Freddy 1 May, 2006

VÄRLDENS SNYGGASTE KILLE XD!!!!!!


 * Agreed. This seems to reek of an attempt to turn the Wikipedia article into an advertisement for skandar.net over skandarkeynesfan.com (at the very least it'll help their google ranking), just look at the consistent reverts in the edit history. No doubt, skandar.net is a good website, but I've seen nothing that would entitle it to special treatment above all others. For example, it is not the "official" Skandar Keynes website as far as I can tell.


 * The suggestion from Rachel Cakes above that people will be blocked for adding links is ridiculous and IMO should be viewed as issuing unnecessary threats. As far as I am concerned, all reasonable quality fansites can be linked. --New Progressive 05:09, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Qaulity fansites is too difficult a judgement call in my opinion. WP:NOT a link directory. If there is no consensus about which one or two should stay then all fansites should probably be deleted in my opinion. Eluchil404 11:48, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Quoting WP:EL ''Fan sites: On articles about topics with many fansites, including a link to one major fansite is appropriate, marking the link as such. In extreme cases, a link to a web directory of fansites can replace this link.''

So people can now upload their fansite (if it has information) on here? -cutienemo04
 * No. Eluchil404 19:58, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

The Newsprogressive said that all reasonable quality fansites can be linked. -cutienemo04
 * He/She is wrong as a matter of policy. Listing multiple fanistes is to be avoided per the Manual of Style Guidline WP:EL which I quoted above.  Attempts to add several links will probably be reverted.  On the other hand, if you want to add information from a site and include a link to it as a reference that is fine, but it may still be reverted if others judge to information to be irrelevant to the purpose of the article (such as Skandar's favorite whatever).  Eluchil404 23:37, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Atheist
Sorry, but I just needed to say that I find it incredibly odd that Skandar Keynes is a actor in a Narnia movie, and he is an atheist!!! I just cannot understand how he understood the role and did so well in it if he doe not fully understand who it represents. I would like to see somebody's opinion on this. Thank you.
 * lol, he's an actor! He wasn't even playing a Christian character. Just because the film had Christian themes has nothing to do with the actors who play them. Except for Anna Popplewell, who I know is Christian, I doubt any of the other actors were religious. JackO&#39;Lantern 06:46, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Is it important enough to cite in the article though? Obviously some people are interested in all his personal details but I don't think his religious views are relevant to the article. He's an actor not a theologian. Eluchil404 18:04, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually it wasn't in the article originally, but that post reminded me to put it in. Since the article is pretty short as is, it doesn't exactly take up space :) JackO&#39;Lantern 18:07, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm not going to get into a revert war over this. I did change the wording slightly since Darwin wasn't actually an atheist.  Eluchil404 02:09, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Who really understands religion, faith and fate at such a young age anyway?


 * me

Molière 10:13, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I think the article should remain as it is since Skandar has clearly stated on several occasions that he is indeed an Atheist. The only person who really has the right to alter this is Skandar himself. Stenorman2001 20:05, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

For some reason the article now no longer says the kid's an atheist. (Though there is still a link below to "English atheist".) It may not seem relevant as he is an actor not a philosopher, but it may be for three reasons 1) the books and films are controversial due to Lewis's Christian context (Edmund being the Judas character of course) and he has said he has no problem with this. 2) If you look in wiki's "list of atheists" you'll find he's the youngest famous atheist listed, 3) he has implicitly said in an interview that he is an atheist because of Darwin and evolution, meaning that (like Richard Dawkins) evolution disproved God. Sorry for posting with no username, if no-one objects I'll add the fact back in with a link to said interview. (community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/6567379.html) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.51.61.74 (talk) 10:26, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Now Skandar Keynes has said in an interview (see footnote/link 5) that "apparantly I'm an atheist". Who says a thing like that? Either he's just reacting to the interviewer saying "you've said you're an atheist" or to the fact that wikipedia, imdb and other internet "fact lists" list that he once said he's an atheist. Still, who says "apparantly" in a context like that? Strange... (It doesn't help that he says this half way through him and William doing some kind of riff/joke about him being a racist) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.51.61.74 (talk) 14:57, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * He's the great-great-great-grand son of Charles Darwin and his father is a well-known atheist. There's no doubt he's an atheist, though I don't think he thinks much about it. Not all atheists are interested in religion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.185.211.217 (talk) 09:27, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

He used to be athiest, but in 2010 he has said that he is now agnostic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parawhore123 (talk • contribs) 10:25, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

New Pic
The new pic is a screen capture from the CTV interveiw of the four children availible on this page near the bottom. Eluchil404 09:23, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Wikipedia is not a collection of photographs or media files one pic is plenty. Let's discuss which one to use here and then stick to it. I'll move the extra ones to the talk page so they are visible while we discuss. Eluchil404 07:15, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Keynes in Beirut
Interesting story, if anyone wants to add bits from it Mad Jack 05:25, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

GA failed
As of 25 October 2006, per WP:WIAGA, this article fails for GA status. My main concern is that it is not broad enough – (criterion 3) – for a biography of living person. As the subject is an actor, the article is really lack of the subject's biography as an actor. All information - in the only - lead section are trivia, not related to the nobility of the subject. When this matter is resolved, you can renominate this article back. If you disagree with my review, then you can submit this article to WP:GA/R. Cheers. &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 13:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Iskandar?
The part about Skandar being Pashto is irrelevant, I am removing it. إسكندر in Arabic, is transliterated in a number of ways including Iskander, Iskandar, Skandar, Skander, Eskander, Eskender, etc...the fact that he uses Skandar has nothing to do with Pashto, it's just his own personal choice of spelling. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.195.220.141 (talk) 23:47, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

I think the article should be clearer about his name. Alexander is the British translation of Iskandar in Arabic. He uses Alexander on his British passport. But what about his Lebanese documents? Right now, the article sounds like 'Skandar' is just a nickname. But if you were part English-part Spanish and your name was Pedro/Peter, then Pete is not a nickname. He goes by Skandar, not Alex or Xander. But whatever, the article should still mention 'Iskandar' to show where 'Skandar' comes from. If people agree Ill add it.Daiquiri6 (talk) 11:47, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

dunno if this is going to show up as a reply or not, I'm new to this. anyways, I'm just going to go ahead and edit this -- his name's Skandar. Skandar is short for Iskander or Iskandar, which is Arabic for Alexander -- but that's not the name he goes by normally. just looked on his film history, official website, and main fansite -- not one mention of him calling himself Alexander. at the moment his page makes it look like SKandar is his nickname, which it's not. Daiquiri, you can go ahead and add in the "Iskandar" part if you like -- I'm just going to get rid of the alexander in the beginning of the post. Thyr56 (talk) 08:58, 5 January 2010 (UTC) Why don't you azk Skandar? Then you can know for sure! Victoria W. in NC —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.167.182.220 (talk) 02:25, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

@ Victoria - Okay, I'll ask him... oh wait. He's a famous actor. If you know how to contact him, then by all means go ahead, but... yeah. I think we're gonna have to figure this out on our own. ;) Thyr56 (talk) 06:06, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

chopped ancestry
I chopped a fair bit of ancestry since more remote ancestors such as King Edward are certainly shared with a very large percentage of modern Britons. Also chopped Tony Benn since Tony Benn is only collaterally and remotely related to the Wedgwoods. I've dropped David Hume since he is at most a great uncle several time removed. Also Ruth Padel who is a third cousin (which is fairly distant even given that the Wedgwood/Darwins are clannish). There are links at the bottom of the article to the Keynes and Wedgwood/Darwin families articles for those who want to follow the intricacies. I believe Wikipedia standards are not to give too much ancestry unless it is directly relevant to the article. --Erp (talk) 04:34, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Quite reasonable. If anything it could be cut back even more.  Eluchil404 (talk) 06:52, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Primary school
To which Thorntill Primary School he attended? If I know, there is only one article about such school but there are few Thorntill Primary Schools in UK. --87.205.66.93 (talk) 19:12, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Pronunciation
It would be great to have included information on the pronunciation of the Keynes`s name, in the article. If anybody is sure how the name is pronounced, he resp. she may just describe that, here, by exact comparisons to common English expressions. I would then turn that into a note on the pronunciation on the basis of IPA for English. --Hans Dunkelberg (talk) 20:34, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Picture
We need to get picture on here.--88.111.129.157 (talk) 14:49, 16 May 2015 (UTC)


 * One here https://www.flickr.com/photos/stevenleonti/5318042327 Iady391 &#124; Talk to me here 21:59, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Skandar's nickname changes his birth name?
The article calls him Skandar Keynes (born Alexander Amin Casper Keynes). This makes it seem like he changed his birth name. Why not simply Alexander Amin Casper "Skandar" Keynes? Rovingrobert (talk) 06:14, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Genealogy info
Emir of Wikipedia added a that looks to be unsourced, so I removed it. Even if all the names were sourced, I'm not sure this belongs here. Wikipedia isn't a genealogy website, and I don't really see what value this adds. If he were a member of a royal family, maybe. I don't think we need that much detail for an actor. We've already got a prose section that details the most notable family members, and some of those sources don't even look like they are sourced very well. Before we go creating a big list like this, we need better sourcing for the prose version. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:06, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 * It appears as if the majority of the family history is also present on the page of his father, Randal Keynes, with even worse sourcing should we remove that too? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 12:58, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, probably so. I can understand how being related to Charles Darwin would excite fans of genealogy, but these kinds of charts aren't usually done in biographies outside of royalty.  I'm not really into this kind of genealogy stuff, so I could be off about this, but it looks like we've already got an article on Darwin's family line: Darwin–Wedgwood family.  In that case, we could probably just link there. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 13:11, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * We are all related so you also are related to Charles Darwin. His immediate relatives and a pointer to the Darwin-Wedgwood family page should be sufficient.   At least he isn't dead; there is someone going around trying to put in where all the Darwin descendants and their spouses are buried.--Erp (talk) 14:15, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * When I was excited about this I went ahead and created Keynes family where the main links are shown. Assuming things can be sourced they should be placed there or in Darwin–Wedgwood family rather than in individual people's articles.  Eluchil404 (talk) 15:29, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

I've replaced the information about Skander being a direct descendent of Baha'u'llah that was deleted without explanation. I should point out that other descendants' biographies note this interesting fact, such as Leila Shahid. 83.70.57.179 (talk) 18:47, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
 * And I have since removed it, as failing to be reported by an independent reliable source. Please provide a source for this information presented by an independent third party.  Scr ★ pIron IV 18:56, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note that reinstating it without a WP:RS is a WP:BLPVIO Please see WP:BLPSOURCE - it has been challenged by multiple editors, and a source must be presented to include it.  Scr ★ pIron IV 21:23, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I've provided one. P550 of Appendix B: Families of Baha'u'llah and the Bab, in Shua Ullah Behai's A Lost History of the Baha'i Faith . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.114.169.250 (talk) 12:42, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

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Date of birth
Not really sure why this was not included. I found it quite easily and will add. September 5, 1991 in London, England, UK https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1342727/ surfingus (talk) 16:52, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

I found 3 sources for Skandar Keynes birthday Born - September 5, 1991, in Camden, London, England

https://www.allmovie.com/artist/skandar-keynes-p429880 (note, this website was also used for Will Moseley's DOB https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Moseley_(actor)#cite_note-1 so I assume it is ok to use for Skandar Keynes DOB).

https://www.datingcelebs.com/who-is-skandar-keynes-dating/

https://www.thefamouspeople.com/profiles/skandar-keynes-40513.php

Could you please inform me which sources are considered reliable for Wikipedia and which ones are not? Also, could someone add the information to his infobox as his Wikipedia page is locked?