Talk:Ski cap

Move proposal
There are a lot of mistakes in this article. For instance:
 * The origin of what it (the article) calls "M43 field cap" (that is, Einheitsfeldmütze) is not properly Gebirgsjäger's Bergmütze but Austro-Hungarian Feldkappe. In fact, both Bergmütze and 1943 Einheitsfeldmütze were but several variants of Feldkappe, properly speaking.
 * Austro-Hungarian Feldkappe was born in 1868, not 1906, and not only for mountain troops, but for the all AH Army; and it was the usual headwear of AH soldiers since then up to the end of the Empire. Moreover, it has stayed in both the Austrian and Hungarian military traditions.
 * So, the term "M43 field cap" can be used as an English name for a concrete model (Nazi M1943), but not as a name for a general typology of cap --the proper name of that typology would be Feldkappe.
 * There was not any "M41 Camouflaged Field Cap". There was an M1940 Feldmütze (in Feldkappe style) for Afrika Korps only, and it was not camouflaged; it was effectively distributed beginning in 1941. There was also an M1942 getarnte Feldmütze, also in Feldkappe style, which was camouflaged, and it was for Waffen-SS use only --not for Wehrmacht. Wehrmacht used camouflaged field caps, certainly, but these were M43 caps.
 * the Chinese uniforms in the thirties were not German-supplied. The Chinese Feldkappe-style cap (M1929!) was its own design, and it was adopted long before this style of cap entered the German military tradition.Joan Rocaguinard (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:06, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Postdata: By the way, as Chinese M1929 caps, Finnish WW2 caps were not "based on the German pattern", but on AH Feldkappe. In Finland this style of cap was adopted first in 1918, by Civic Guard, and in 1936 by the Army.Joan Rocaguinard (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:13, 14 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Based in your suggestion, I made a bold edit and moved the oage to ski cap. --MPorciusCato (talk) 19:52, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Edelweiss badge error
The Edelweiss badge we refer to in the article and in the photos is not a proficiency badge, but an arm-of-service badge. All members of Gebirgsjäger units wore that badge on the side of their caps, regardless of climbing ability. For Gebirgsjäger who qualified as expert skiers, there was a version of the Edelweiss badge imposed over a pair of skis.

The Jäger detachments in the Wehrmacht had a similar badge, consisting of a sprig of three oak leaves. It was also worn on the left side of the cap.

Both badges are used in the Bundeswehr today, too.

There was a badge for proficiency in mountaineering skills, the Heeresbergführer ("army mountain guide") badge. It was awarded to qualified personnel and worn in the left breast pocket of the tunic.

Brian L Davis' "German Army Uniforms and Insignia 1933-1945" is a good resource/reference for this subject.

Best regardsTheBaron0530 (talk) 19:28, 5 May 2017 (UTC)theBaron0530