Talk:Solomon Perel

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After watching Europa Europa last night I was surprised to see so little written here so I've started the ball rolling. I haven't used too much from the film as I'm sure the director changed a lot from the book for artistic purposes. Jm butler 14:56, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

I have changed Volksdeutscher back to Volksdeutsche. Volksdeutscher maybe correct German for an individual person but it is a loan word and it would be pointless to repeat a whole entry for Volksdeutscher in the English Wikipedia just to explain the differences between these two words. If someone wants to go to the trouble of creating a Volksdeutscher entry then we can change this aricle in the future. Jm butler 18:10, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I disagree with changing Josef Perjell to Josef Peters. In the book (which Solomon wrote) it is Perjell and only in the film (which has a lot of artistic license in it) is it Peters. Jm butler 15:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * It appears there has been a lot of work put into this article. I was considering it for deletion nomination based on the lack of notability of the subject.  Before someone else does, perhaps some attention to providing sources of info, any media coverage he has recieved, etc.--Gay Cdn 19:37, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

What on earth are you talking about, "lack of notability"? Did you see the film of his life? Far more notable than anything you have achieved. There are thousands of biographies of non-entities and the vain on this site. This is not one of them. I suggest you do more research yourself. Jm butler 09:55, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Wow. I have to point to you the policy on WP:CIVILITY.  I came across this page via "random article" and while reading it, thought it lacked any noted sources to substantiate the claims made.  I did not nominate the article, I simply placed a notice here and on Jm butler's user page that perhaps citing sources would prevent someone else from nominating it in the future.  Attacking my nobility, Far more notable than anything you have achieved." in no way increases or proves the nobility of the subject article.--Gay Cdn 11:40, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


 * You have been a member of Wikipedia for barely a month and have taken rather too much on for yourself. You need to learn about sensitivity. The facts that Mr Perel is still alive and the nature of his childhood experiences demand both sensitivity and respect. Jm butler 17:54, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * It, however, does not mean that the article is exempt from being nominated for deletion by anyone who wanders across this unsourced article. Let's get some sources, and fast. --Liface 21:16, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Jm butler, thanks a lot! I've also watched Europa Europa and been impressed. Unfortunatelly I didnt find the article on Solomon Perel in Russian Wikipedia, so I used your article, translated it and added more info. I find your article very essential. You've done big work.
 * Having this article in 5 languages was partly a reason of its existance legality during the Russian article preparing. Thanks. Kurt33 (talk) 00:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Birthdate
If you watch the movie, he says quite clearly that he was born on 20. April, and gleefully declares "the same day as Hitler" (sorry for my paraphrasing). This article however, says it was 21. April. Granted, the movie is in many ways very different from the book, but they took artistic license with his birthdate? Seriously? Tom e rtalk 00:41, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

No edits for some years, but just in case anyone wants to edit this in the future, be cautious about the movie. It strays VERY significantly from the autobiography and contains a lot of stuff that never occurred. Just one of many examples: the movie depicts Perel being captured by the Russians after a firefight, and then almost being executed by a freed KZ prisoner. In fact, Perel was captured in his sleep by the Americans, and events immediately after his capture were an anticlimax. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.112.100.2 (talk) 02:40, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Will someone please confirm his real birthday. I watched Europa Europa last night believing it was his birthday but then saw both on the IMDb and Wikipedia that he was in fact born on the 21st. Well, anyways, whether it is today or yesterday, happy birthday Solomon Perel. -Kedem — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.171.105.228 (talk) 07:40, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Circumcision
In the 1920s and 30s, neonatal circumcision was hardly unheard of in Europe among non-Jews. In fact it was quite common. My father (born 1933) was circumcised as a neonate and he was a Presbyterian. So Solomon Perel was surely not 'in constant danger of being discovered' when so many non-Jews were circumcised. He may have BELIEVED he was in constant danger, but the reality is that his circumcision would not have put him at any risk of being discovered. The article should reflect this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.50.25.105 (talk) 11:06, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Is your father an USAmerican? It may be common in US, but not in Europe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.67.218.104 (talk) 19:50, 14 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Indeed. I don't have any sources to hand, but I seem to remember there being numerous documented instances of Nazi forces checking for circumcision to discover whether someone was Jewish. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:05, 14 July 2012 (UTC)