Talk:Somalia/Archive 8

Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2020
Please remove the map that highlight Somalia in two different colors to this link: https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/image/view/-/4666182/highRes/1976025/-/maxw/600/-/wipuxsz/-/land+row.jpg

This is the article that claim the why that map is not current. https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/ea/Somaliland-Puntland-land-dispute/4552908-4666094-q4134q/index.html 2601:480:4000:A190:AC16:FB56:A9FD:6BF2 (talk) 04:46, 5 April 2020 (UTC)


 * ❌. Please try to build consensus for your changes. This will not be done through an edit request. You simply need to convince participants that your changes are the correct ones. If you need further outside input, you may consult dispute resolution requests. El_C 06:46, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Fixed Direction, Northwest is Djibouti.
According to the map shown in the page, The country bordering Somalia on the northwest is Djibouti.

If you would like a source, here is Britannica https://www.britannica.com/place/Somalia It states "Somalia is bounded by the Gulf of Aden to the north, by the Indian Ocean to the east, by Kenya and Ethiopia to the west, and by Djibouti to the northwest."

Putting a note does not count as source

If you have any objection, please use this talk to state your reasoning and stop the vandalism.
 * I agree and I have no objections to affirm the sovereignty and territorial integrity as stated. The UN Security council, international community should be able to back this statement up as well. Best regards, HSA777 (talk) 17:54, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

User:Siirski Please use here to discuss before vandalism or else I will ask volunteer admin to step in — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hurbad (talk • contribs) 19:36, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

These Three users Dabaqabad Siirski Jacob300 are all vandalizing the page. Some have previously been accused and flagged. Hurbad (talk) 12:34, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

History section is very overloaded
I have noticed the History section half of it is to do with the Somali Civil War of the last 30 years. There is a ton of information here but it is too much. Since this is the article for Somalia, it should mention the war but not go into so much detail. The conflicts have articles of themselves and additionally there exists a History of Somalia article where more detailed history can go in.

See Vietnam for example, where the info of the First Indochina War, Vietnam War and Reunification are very well trimmed in three subsections, without overloading content.

The History section of Somalia should be significantly trimmed down. --Weaveravel (talk) 00:09, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Somali National anthem
I don't think that the national anthem shown is correct. Flags200 (talk) 11:49, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Yep, it's wrong. It's the flag anthem, not the official one. Ftuxkingmor9n (talk) 21:45, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

good 👍👍👍😊 Citycountryball2000 (talk) 21:18, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Map caption's claims about "control" are incorrect
Regardless of whether Somaliland should be included or not, the map caption is substantially incorrect, since neither Somalia nor Somaliland controls anywhere close to all of the territory shown for each. I edited the caption to be neutral and accurate, but my edit was reverted without explanation. Mine was:

Territory claimed by Somalia shown in dark and light green, with the lighter color showing the area claimed by self-declared Somaliland⁠ (an unrecognized state)

Can someone explain why that was reverted? GeoEvan GeoEvan (talk) 18:41, 20 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Okay does anyone actually object to me changing it back to what I suggested? GeoEvan (talk) 00:15, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Somalidu Waxa Ay Ku Dhisanyahine QabiiLo izku TagaY GabiLkastana Izagaa izahantii Doranaya Mezha U Izaga Rapo Somaliland na Xududa Ma Zaxankarto Oo dowladapa Waxa Ka horeyA Zhacabka hubay Zan Mustafe khaliji (talk) 19:16, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Is this page about the "Country" or "who controls what in Somalia"?. Abdikafi Ysn (talk) 08:14, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Religion
You keep adding information to the infobox's Religion section which is not in the reference given. The reference states only that the religion is "Sunni Muslim (Islam) (official, according to the 2012 Transitional Federal Charter)". There are no percentage figures given. If you have another reliable source which gives figures, then you need to give it. By all means follow WP:BRD — "Bold", which you were in adding the figures; "Revert", which I have done with the reason stated; and "Discuss", which I have started here. Do not change the figures again else you may be considered a disruptive editor. Bazza (talk) 16:38, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 29 August 2018 and 22 December 2018. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): DayNV.

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Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment
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Somalia
Can someone please change the demonym for Somalis because Somalian isn’t a word and majority of Somalis don’t like it because it is incorrect Theculturedswine (talk) 11:16, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Of course Somalian is a word. Do you have reliable sources for what you say? Everything on Wikipedia hinges on that and so it should be. 151.177.58.208 (talk) 14:14, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Disruptive edits?
Here I came across a questionable edit, which doesn't seem to be the only one by that user. In this case removal of referenced material and what seems like a bias against colonial languages that are actually still used in the country. 151.177.58.208 (talk) 14:17, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2022
Please update GDP per capita to $1245 according to the latest World Bank data 109.38.152.23 (talk) 13:25, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ And I will update other economic data. 𝕸𝖗 𝕽𝖊𝖆𝖉𝖎𝖓𝖌 𝕿𝖚𝖗𝖙𝖑𝖊 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 (talk) 21:21, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2022
New president is Hassan Sheikh Mohamud 197.157.231.198 (talk) 21:20, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ M.Bitton (talk) 21:25, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Map innacuracy.
The map on the page seems to display a small independent country between Pakistan, India, and China. This country does not exist. Could somebody fix this? CheeseInTea (talk) 13:52, 17 May 2022 (UTC)CheeseInTea

Population in text
The country’s population appearing in the introductory text (not the info box) is off by a factor of 10 from the cited spreadsheet source. It is referenced via a formula that looks correct numerically but may be pulling data from the wrong row of the spreadsheet. Indymemerson1 (talk) 10:31, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * It seems that has fixed the template. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:28, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Soomaliya
Soomaaliya

41.223.109.51 (talk) 19:37, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:42, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Soomaaliya
Gdp PPP         2022 estimate Total                195 billion (55) Per capita        8,888          (120)

Gdp nominal   95 billion     (65) Per capita. 3,333.         (134) 41.223.109.51 (talk) 19:59, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Infobox
, can you please explain why you're repeatedly removing sourced content from the article's infobox and adding an unsourced population figure? Cordless Larry (talk) 20:24, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Demonym
Somali is ethnicity, and every somalia isn't a citizen of somalia, please change that to Somalian thats their nationality, I'm somali but I'm not a citizen of Somalia nor every somali im Djibouti, Somaliland, Eritrea, Ethiopia or Kenya. 41.79.199.19 (talk) 05:27, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * We had Somalians, but it was deleted in May without explanation. Maybe because there is this web-borne myth that "Somalian" is wrong or even "offensive". "Somali" is ambiguous but nevertheless used not only as ethnonym, but also as demonym for Somalia. –Austronesier (talk) 15:35, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
 * "Somalian" is absent in both Somalia's provisional constitution and the 2016 amendment to the 1962 Citizenship Bill. Conversely, both documents explicitly refer to citizens of the Federal Government of Somalia as "Somali". Unless you can find legal documents from the Somali government using the demonym "Somalian", I would refrain from changing this page. Gantzbantz (talk) 15:27, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion
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Semi-protected edit request on 29 July 2023
Replace 0.3 HDI with 0.713, according to the UN it is this HDI. AnnasAbdulle (talk) 17:38, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 19:01, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Hdi is wrong
The somali hdi is 0,713. Here is the source:https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/Somalia/human_development Ramy Ahmed01 (talk) 17:46, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
 * This source seems to contain an error, also citing an implausibly low HDI for South Africa compared to other countries in Africa. For South Africa, it cites a value of 0.385 for this year, which is dramatically lower than the value of 0.713 quoted in the 2021 UNDP report and a similar value quoted for previous years. I have contacted the site's administrator about this error. –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 19:21, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 September 2023
The hdi is 0,713 and population is 18 million 143.178.45.244 (talk) 17:36, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ❌ See below. –LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄ ) 19:23, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Request for GDP and population update
Please update the GPD and population figures based on 2023 IMF data. PPP: $32.08 billion / $2000 and Nominal: $11.52 billion / $717.41. Population: 16.05 million people. WORLD ECONOMIC OUTLOOK (OCTOBER 2023) - https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/profile/SOM 109.38.144.46 (talk) 11:05, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 October 2023
Please add the increase symbol next to the GDP figures and update the population figure to 16.05 million based on the 2023 IMF report 109.38.147.87 (talk) 09:46, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The icons have already been added. As for changing the population amount, it reflects the current source. I do not know which would be more authoritative: the CIA Factbook or the IMF. -- Pinchme123 (talk) 04:13, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

There is no mention of the American intervention/invasion and the Battle of Mogadishu!?
. 115.70.100.169 (talk) 03:25, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Relations with Ethiopia
On the 1st of January, 2024, a pact was signed between Ethiopia and Somaliland, where Ethiopia will lease the port of Berbera on the Red Sea, and a 20km stretch of Red Sea coastline, for 20 years, in exchange for eventual recognition of Somaliland as an independent state. If this pact is honoured, Ethiopia will become the first United Nations member state to recognise the breakaway nation. So much for a Greater Somalia including Djibouti and the North of Kenya ? AndrewHart500 (talk) 04:09, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Pending changes
Due to the amazing history of vandalism, I added indefinite pending changes. Please ping me if this becomes onerous.--  Deep fried  okra