Talk:Song Zuying

Affair with Jiang Zemin
There is of course the long existing rumour, known to all in China, that she had an affair with Jiang Zemin - but for obvious reasons there are no sources on this. And isn't she the wife of some provincial governor or something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by FOARP (talk • contribs) 18:44, 28 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Of course we should add it to the page. Citing is not omniscent. 122.88.42.124 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:33, 28 March 2010 (UTC).


 * No rumours please. Note that this article must adhere to the biographies of living persons policy. Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. Rincewind42 (talk) 07:57, 17 December 2013 (UTC)


 * The affair seems to be a reasonably well-documented (and widely reported) phenomenon, as is evidenced by the links. FOARP (talk) 15:36, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The rumor of an affair has had an effect on people (e.g. that professor) beyond the rumor itself. There might be an argument to include that. There is no argument that we should have the completely unknowable text of a letter that no one has proof existed. This part is gossip and unverifiable. We can't include any part that the sources themselves admit are purely speculative. I'm going to take out the BLP-problematic stuff. __ E L A Q U E A T E  13:12, 16 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Edits seem OK, but User:Songfans keeps deleting the relevant section. Time to protect? FOARP (talk) 16:33, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Since no improvement has been made to the BLP-dodgy section, I've taken it out until someone can show an argument that it's not all unproven rumor. The New Yorker clearly calls it a rumor. I was giving a benefit-of-the-doubt to a possible argument that no other editor actually ended up articulating. Leaving it in was a mistake when it comes to BLP-non-compliant material. The default should be to remove, not retain.__ E L A Q U E A T E  14:30, 19 August 2014 (UTC)