Talk:Sorø Abbey

Valdemar IV
Why is Valdemar IV of Denmark still buried there or is he?--Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 18:46, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * He is still buried at Sorø, although he was first buried at Vordingborg, and then moved to Sorø at the request of Margrethe I (Picture of the sarcophagus can be seen here). The tradition of burying royalty at Roskilde was only begun some time after the death of Margrethe, and according to this source, her corpes was moved to Roskilde "almost with force" and against the will of the monks at Sorø. So I guess they didn't want to try it again with the body of Valdemar (although this is a guess, as I haven't been able to find any sources providing a direct answer to your question). --Saddhiyama (talk) 21:24, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you know anything about the burial of Eric Christoffersen of Denmark? This source says he was buried in Sorø Abbey, but St. Bendt's Church list him as buried there with a picture of names to prove it. Did Eric's body orignally rested in Sorø Abbey and was moved to St. Bendt's? It seems weird that the bodies in Sorø Abbey were moved to two different churches St. Bendt's and Roskilde Cathedral? Is there anywhere on the web where one could actually find out the exact occupants of these three tombs currently, today, because a lot of moving seems to have happen since these monarchs's burial.--The Emperor&#39;s New Spy (talk) 02:49, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Very interesting. You seem to have stumbled upon a mistake made centuries ago by an old historian, which have since been perpetuated in other sources who haven't bothered looking up the reference. While searching for the answer I found out that the first edition of the Danish Biographical Dictionary, which claims he was buried at Sorø, refers to the work History of Denmark, volume XXII from 1824 by acclaimed historian Peter Frederik Suhm. Luckily that volume is available at Google Books and the information needed is on page 228. He also claims that Erik was buried at Sorø and cites the Danish historian Arild Huitfeldt page 456.(the 1652 edition) for that information. Even more lucky this particular edition of Huitfeldts work is also available on Google Books, and on page 456 bottom of the first paragraph it reads: "...siden er hans Liig med Kongelig Pract ført til Ringsted/oc der begraffuen". That is "his body was taken to Ringsted and buried with royal pomp"! Huitfeldt doesn't mention anything about Sorø, so it seems that Suhm or his editor Rasmus Nyerup (after all his work was published posthumously more than 20 years after his death), has made an error, and this has been transferred to the Danish Biographical Dictionary which has probably been used as a source for the various websites and other later biographies that mentions Erik.
 * So to sum it up St. Bendts Church in Ringsted is the correct answer, and it seems he has never been buried at Sorø, so his bodied wasn't moved. However this is purely original research since noone seems to have noticed that error before now. But I guess since Huitfeldt is a reliable source, and combined with the burial plaque at the church in Ringsted, this is an error so obvious that it wouldn't be a problem to point it out in the article. --Saddhiyama (talk) 09:50, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hang on. I just did a doublecheck of the sources, Suhm also refers to Scriptores, which would be Scriptores rerum danicarum, an 18th century scholarly publication of medieval Danish texts, also available on Google Books, and that one (page 523) does say he was buried at Sorø: "...& in ecclesia Halstadensi per quatuordecim dies cum solennibus exequiis fecit custodori, donec nuncii de Lubeck redeuntes cum necessaris pro ejus sepultura, & in Sielandiam deductus, sepelitur Soræ". So unfortunately it seems to be Huitfeldt who was in error and that he just inferred Ringsted from the later burial place, and that Erik indeed originally was buried at Sorø. I am afraid all this brings us no closer as to when and why he was moved to Ringsted. --Saddhiyama (talk) 18:12, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The moving is not that hard to believe. It is the fact that bodies from Soro Abbey were moved to two different places (Ringsted and Roskilde) while some were left behind that is weird to comprehend. --The Emperor&#39;s New Spy (talk) 20:10, 10 July 2012 (UTC)