Talk:Soviet aircraft carrier Kiev

Pronouns
He not a She.

He's a russian ship, so would be a he not a she. Russian thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.243.189.133 (talk) 09:16, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * This isn't a Russian-language site. The English-language convention used for ships is "she", regardless of country or origin. I actually prefer the grammatically correct it, as it would avoid national preference arguments, but I'm not going to get my way on that either. - BillCJ (talk) 09:47, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Shouldn't this be aircraft carrying cruiser instad of Aircraft carrier?
It says that it is called such by the Russians and on top of that the footnote says that it is a correct discription. Why insist on calling it a carrier? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.214.57.217 (talk) 14:10, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Cuz we smartass Russians only ever called it an aircraft-carrying cruiser to save face, due to an earlier propaganda campaign about carriers being the ultimate imperialist weapon for neo-colonial oppression. That made us feel WAY more righteous and all-around better about our decidedly innocent and ideologically true selves. Aadieu (talk) 02:00, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * There is also the reason of wanting to work around the limitations of the Montreux Convention on aircraft carriers (see ). — Saxifrage ✎ 18:27, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Objectivity
Sad how no one is even able to go to the Chinese web to find the (now) corporate web page of the ship. The article is dated from 2011; Shame on the editors who participated. No blame on the Russians since this is an English-language portal, please. Dark Liberty (talk) 06:30, 31 August 2014 (UTC)


 * The article was not written all at once in 2011. Feel free to add missing information with sources. — Saxifrage ✎ 18:36, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

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