Talk:Spanish–Moro conflict

spanish expulsion of "infidel" chinese from manila
http://books.google.com/books?id=4wk8yqCEmJUC&pg=PA386&dq=1762+british+chinese+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=zNLSUK3IFKfn0gHgtIHwBw&ved=0CFcQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=1762%20british%20chinese%20manila&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=_yPbAxKOhsMC&pg=PA356#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=jzUz9lKn6PEC&pg=PA160&dq=1762+british+chinese+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=zNLSUK3IFKfn0gHgtIHwBw&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=1762%20british%20chinese%20manila&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=xiOQdEzgP9kC&pg=PR20&dq=1762+british+chinese+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=zNLSUK3IFKfn0gHgtIHwBw&ved=0CFwQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=1762%20british%20chinese%20manila&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=I1xBodSLU0cC&pg=PA17&dq=1762+british+catholic+chinese+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=AtTSUO7YIc6J0QGo_4CQDw&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=1762%20british%20catholic%20chinese%20manila&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=F3hE-3lDNQgC&pg=PA104&dq=1762+british+catholic+chinese+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=EdbSUM76Fe6_0QH8rICYBg&ved=0CEMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=1762%20british%20catholic%20chinese%20manila&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=EwnzBiM0LmAC&pg=PA36&dq=1762+british+chinese+manila&hl=en&sa=X&ei=zNLSUK3IFKfn0gHgtIHwBw&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=1762%20british%20chinese%20manila&f=false

Rajmaan (talk) 09:13, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Length of conflict
http://books.google.com/books?id=qyo-Hti0-KAC&pg=PA87&dq=Three+centuries+war+spanish&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1dbSUJzMOPGM0QHkvIGICQ&ved=0CFsQ6AEwBzgU#v=onepage&q=Three%20centuries%20war%20spanish&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=FpwoZl-3PVMC&pg=PA36&dq=Three+centuries+war+spanish&hl=en&sa=X&ei=t9bSUKX_Asi00AH8yoHACg&ved=0CE4Q6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=Three%20centuries%20war%20spanish&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=QKgraWbb7yoC&pg=PA1076&dq=Three+centuries+war+spanish&hl=en&sa=X&ei=t9bSUKX_Asi00AH8yoHACg&ved=0CFUQ6AEwBjgK#v=onepage&q=Three%20centuries%20war%20spanish&f=false

Rajmaan (talk) 21:53, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

http://books.google.com/books?id=qyo-Hti0-KAC&pg=PA66#v=onepage&q&f=false

A Local Church Living for Dialogue: Muslim-Christian Relations in Mindanao ... William Larousse

http://books.google.com/books?id=qyo-Hti0-KAC&pg=PA67#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=qyo-Hti0-KAC&pg=PA68#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=qUkH7NgWlKUC&pg=PA38#v=onepage&q&f=false

lack of religious motives for the conflict on the moro side
http://books.google.com/books?id=qyo-Hti0-KAC&pg=PA69#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=qyo-Hti0-KAC&pg=PA70#v=onepage&q&f=false

religious motives on the spanish side
A Spanish friar labeled the conflict as "Holy War"

http://books.google.com/books?id=pBfsaw64rjMC&pg=PA231#v=onepage&q&f=false

Rajmaan (talk) 22:22, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Cleanup needed
There is a wealth of information in this article but it is largely undigested, with constant repetition of info. It needs someone familiar with the history to go through it carefully and produce a single narrative. --Ken Gallager (talk) 15:32, 2 May 2013 (UTC)


 * If this article is not substantially composed of verbatim copied material, I will be surprised. In addition to obvious signs of being verbatim scanned material (spacing and typos), it contains a "translator's note" from the original source. Go figure.--75.164.155.194 (talk) 02:35, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Slave and Firearms trade
Chinese traded firearms to the Moros.

http://books.google.com/books?id=wYvwWcL0_DIC&pg=PA79&dq=sulu+slaves+firearms&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-1XtUrasBevMsQSJ0YGYCQ&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=sulu%20slaves%20firearms&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=VUZq93ydrrwC&pg=PA129#v=onepage&q&f=false

slave raiding and piracy
Spanish attacks

http://books.google.com.my/books?id=qyo-Hti0-KAC&pg=PA83#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com.my/books?id=qyo-Hti0-KAC&pg=PA86#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=4EMIwfP-5x8C&pg=PA24#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=VUZq93ydrrwC&pg=PA119#v=onepage&q&f=false

06:18, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

http://books.google.com/books?id=QKgraWbb7yoC&pg=PA630#v=onepage&q&f=false

Fights with the British

http://books.google.com/books?id=jzUz9lKn6PEC&pg=PA149#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=U80cU8Fx1kAC&pg=PA11&dq=chinese++dayak+pirate+iban+suluk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=gt4KU4DeK-_iyAHGxoHoBQ&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=chinese%20%20dayak%20pirate%20iban%20suluk&f=false

Fights with Spain

http://books.google.com/books?id=LF_UgEGu0dEC&pg=PA33#v=onepage&q&f=false

Slavery practices in the archipelago

http://books.google.com/books?id=xiOQdEzgP9kC&pg=PA31#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=jzUz9lKn6PEC&pg=PA149#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://www.jstor.org/stable/29792093

Slavery practices by Spain

http://books.google.com/books?id=Iq7_jDoi5PEC&pg=PA9#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=LF_UgEGu0dEC&pg=PA32#v=onepage&q&f=false

Juramentado
http://books.google.com/books?id=t8lKAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA282#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=qUkH7NgWlKUC&pg=PA130#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=9bkpAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA238#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=RVxGrQLq3dsC&pg=PA57#v=onepage&q&f=false

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Rajmaan (talk) 19:45, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Datu Piang's role
Datu Piang's father was Chinese and his mother was Moro. He played a major role in the Moro reaction to the Spanish advance on Mindanao in the late 19th century.

http://books.google.com/books?id=wYvwWcL0_DIC&pg=PA91#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=uChDbHq_MxoC&pg=PA237#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=bOJLSyEIO9MC&pg=PA134#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=Iq7_jDoi5PEC&pg=PA67#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=wYvwWcL0_DIC&pg=PA92#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=48g116X9IIwC&pg=PA13#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=4EMIwfP-5x8C&pg=PA61#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=w8n2ZmznFZwC&pg=PA42#v=onepage&q&f=false

Page 132

http://books.google.com/books?id=S1Q5OYAPccoC&pg=PA132#v=onepage&q&f=false

"His father-in- law—Datu Piang, a lowborn son of one of Datu Utu's slave women by a Chinese trader— provided the muscle and brains. Because of Datu Piang, Ali controlled the trade of the rich Cotabato Valley in the Lanao District of central ..."

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"Since the Chinese in Cotabato were loyal to Datu Piang who was of Chinese- Magindanaon ancestry, the two ... The Chinese-Moro alliance, led by Datu Ali and Datu Djimbangan who both enjoyed the backing of Datu Piang, killed Vilo and his ..."

Rajmaan (talk) 08:34, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Chinese rebellions
http://irows.ucr.edu/papers/irows72/irows72.htm

http://books.google.com/books?ei=QcB3UOLrPKi30AG9ioCwCA&id=UclwAAAAMAAJ&dq=Yung+lo+governor+luzon&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Chengs+Luzon

http://books.google.com/books?id=IY8eAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA100&lpg=PA100&dq=governor+chinese+luzon&source=bl&ots=YY9g1MC9Gk&sig=mlSZsGJ4Vmq0s4ShmWD-nJurerE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=h653UM3JOqWD0QGhsoCIAg&ved=0CEQQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=governor%20chinese%20luzon&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZUfNRG8IR44C&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=governor+chinese+luzon&source=bl&ots=MmAD3TlWiZ&sig=CDA0WOIDXP4dBUn_YyYR9kSTCV0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=h653UM3JOqWD0QGhsoCIAg&ved=0CGkQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=governor%20chinese%20luzon&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=Ih4rqkrcp70C&pg=PA297&lpg=PA297&dq=governor+chinese+luzon+mindanao&source=bl&ots=ySrQ3_nUEc&sig=ap-G0j1fUuzRpPZX23dLV2ZbnBI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Rbl3UMGDAeSL0QGn-IC4Cg&ved=0CF4Q6AEwCA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Rajmaan (talk) 04:24, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

PoV
At a minimum should be cited and presumably the problems they were creating were for the Spanish? Some might see this as a good thing. Elinruby (talk) 00:24, 5 February 2024 (UTC)