Talk:Sport stacking

Why
Why does 59.137.203.173 keep editing out the Singapore sport stacking site? Wikipedia should be inclusive and informative for everyone. I'm confused as to why they don't want this source listed. 161.181.53.10 16:59, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Missing image
What happened to the image for this article? — Loadmaster 18:02, 13 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Don't know but it's still here on the German Wikipedia: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Speed-Stacking-Becher.jpg wr 87.139.81.19 11:34, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

1 - 10 - 1 section?
Seeing the cycle stack uses and/or references a 1 - 10 - 1 stack, shouldn't a description of it appear with the 3 - 3 - 3, 3 - 6 - 3, and 6 - 6 descriptions? Recon0. (talk) 18:05, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Flashcups and Crazycups
These are competitors for Speed stacks, and some would call them counterfeit, but there are competitions that utilize them. They aren't allowed by the WSSA, but in Germany and Singapore (there respective countries) they are very popular. They should be included on this page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.238.70.139 (talk) 04:30, 11 February 2007 (UTC).


 * FlashCups are not popular in Germany. They just have a few emloyees doing massive cross marketing in discussion boards. Links to FlashCups and CrazyCups are purely commercial. 80.142.243.125 07:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Are you working for speed stacks? I know a lot of people from Germany who stack, and nearly all of them have FlashCups. The world record was set with Flash Cups. I'm trying to maintain a thorough and unbiased article here, and you're trying to censor what you call "product pirates" who are merely competitors. I use Speed Stacks. I'm in no way biased against Speed Stacks. I just want the whole story told, here. PLEASE tell me why you are so biased. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.238.64.2 (talk) 04:02, 23 March 2007 (UTC).
 * I do not work for FlashCups or SpeedStacks or any other brand. Please visit the homepage of the German Championships. http://www.sst-butzbach.de and check the scores. Out of the Top50 just about 10 people are using FlashCups - all the other use SpeedStacks. SpeedStacks made the sport popular in the USA, in Germany and around the world. SpeedStacks hold many events in Germany in 2004 and 2005. When they became successfull, FlashCups was found to make money. The only purpose of FLashCups and the ISSF is making money. SpeedStacks also wants to make money, sure: it is company. But they also promote the sport, do school workshops for free, support events etc. 80.142.239.249 16:00, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Also note the German team in Denver 2007! 42 people from Germany flew in to Denver to take part in the World Championships. 38 of them using SpeedStacks, 4 using FlashCups. The German Team won 38 disciplines - just two of them for FlashCups stackers. The Germans hold all Overall World Records. How many of them are held by FC? None! 80.142.239.249 16:10, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Get a grip, people. They're plastic cups. If your mission in life is to give your kids hand-eye coordination, you can even use Chucky Cheese coin cups (we have, and they work great.) The trademark is of NO INTEREST to the vast majority of people. If you're trying to sell plastic cups at 1000% profit, please do so on your own web site -- ALL of you! Keno (talk) 21:19, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

ISSF
Could anyone add anything about the ISSF? I would like to know more about them.
 * Dear Macgator, this is completly the same with Flashcups and the ISSF. See www.issf.info The first sentence on the page is "The ISSF was founded by the company FlashCups." See the imprint of the page, it says: "ISSF - International Sport Stacking Federation, Fa. FlashCups GmbH, Gewerbepark Krablerstr.127, Bürogebäude 63, 45326 Essen" i.e.:ISSF = Flashcups. The WSSA has several people working for them, who are not involved with SpeedStacks at all. The ISSF has no people working for the, because the ISSF team is exactly the FlashCups team. 80.142.239.249 15:57, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

All I ask is that people be aware that there are other quality choices in cups out there other than Speedstacks. There are also good people running some of Speedstacks competitors companies. They want to see the sport grow. I firmly believe that until the WSSA allows all cups that fit into certain size parameters into its competitions, the organization should be viewed as a promotional tool for Speedstacks. Until the WSSA allows and acknowledges other companies and thier opinions in shaping the future of the sport, it is a farceMacgator 00:13, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism
This page has been vandalised and I've restored it. Mosdefau2 14:44, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

THE BIG QUESTION
why is it a sport? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.150.73.212 (talk) 13:53, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Why is it called a sport in the article? It's called a sport by reliable sources. If you can find reliable sources that express the opinion that it is not a sport, feel free to add that opinion to the article, properly cited and attributed. -- Schapel (talk) 16:53, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Is table tennis a sport? It can wear you out completely if you play it right. How about arm-wrestling? Probably. But then, people even call billiards "cue sports". Any hobby will eventually be labelled a sport when one person says "hey, this is really hard to do well" and someone else says "yeah, and I'll bet we can make a league out of this and charge people money to participate." Then it's a sport. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.253.75 (talk) 08:45, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

"Sport Stacking" vs. "Speed Stacking"
This has been annoying me for a while. There's the common mistake of calling the sport "Speed Stacking" while "Sport Stacking" is the correct name for it. I can understand calling it "cup stacking" because it actually WAS cup stacking for quite a while, but I have never seen a reliable source refer to the sport as "Speed Stacking." Calling it that is just completely incorrect, and displaying it on the first line of the article won't help calm the mass delusion that it's okay to be calling it "Speed Stacking." While I am all for converting the sport's name to Speed Stacking, until it happens, I think it'd be best to leave "Speed Stacking" out of the article, okay? What do you guys think about this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.83.156 (talk)


 * See this. There are hundreds of news sources that call it that. Please restore the name to the article. Shreevatsa (talk) 01:28, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * The media saying something does not make it any more true than it really is. They make a lot of mistakes, and I think that it would be best to make an effort to fix those mistakes by not restoring the name to the article until it's at least remotely accurate to do so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.113.50 (talk) 22:17, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * The claim being made is that it is known as speed stacking, and there are references to show that it is so known. If you want to claim that every occurrence of the term in the media is a "mistake", you will need references that say so [and then we can say that "it is konwn as speed stacking, but this is a mistake", but it will still be true that it is known as speed stacking :-)]. Shreevatsa (talk) 22:30, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Explain the actual disciplines
How about explaining the actual disciplines. How does a cycle work? What is 3-3-3- and 3-6-3? This article is not extremely helpful. Iago 212 16:44, 29 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Some boffin decided that telling you anything about the actual "sport" would be Original Research, and thus an evil to be eradicated. As late as 2009-01-29, a casual reader could come to Wikipedia to find out what cup stacking is and actually find out; being a shill for the Speed Stacks company was a secondary application of the page space. Now that's pretty much all it is. But thanks to Wikipedia's generous history mechanism, you can still find out what you want to know. Keno (talk) 21:08, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


 * This is madness, madness say I. Thanks, by the way. Iago 212 22:18, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Additions
I added a section about the Benefits (with scientific sources) and the Rules (with the official Rule Book as source). Since I added several reliable sources, I removed the mark asking for them. If you disagree with those changed, dont just revert them, but discuss it first. English is not my first language, so please correct any language-based mistakes I made. 145.253.118.83 (talk) 16:35, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

As Seen on YouTube
As watching videos on my iPod Touch, I found that the shortest record for the Cycle Stack is 5.33 seconds. Garygoh884 (talk) 15:52, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Err.... No. If you don't believe me check out cycle world record on youtube or go to this link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_1GTVrYdts

Updating records
I really think we should stick to the records on WSSA. I found a video of the official 5.000, but I can't find one of the 1.861. No records have a reliable source until they're on WSSA. &#124; Randomno &#124;  WP 17:31, 3 February 2015 (UTC)


 * I agree that we should wait until records are verified by the WSSA. Times are only considered "potential" records until they are video reviewed, and potential world record times have been scratched in the past by the WSSA. Fidens73 (talk) 01:23, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

July 2015 Changes
I noticed the quality of this article could be improved so I decided to be bold and make some changes. So far I've added a paragraph to the History section and changed the infobox to use the sport template instead of the sports league template. I've also been adding references where necessary. Let me know if there are any issues you see with what I've changed. Fidens73 (talk) 02:16, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Equipment Outdated
AdmiralBobkat (talk) 18:21, 6 March 2019 (UTC)I am a World class sacker the equipment in this wiki is outdated I think we should put up a notice about it.