Talk:State highways in Oregon

We have a problem with the naming of articles
The Highway numbers are unsigned. Routes are signed. The articles should be at Oregon Route XX. --SPUI (talk) 18:09, 6 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I will be adding highway number cross-references to the name designations in the route articles, with a link to a secret highway number article I am adding. Dan ad nauseam 22:22, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I would recommend not creating a new article, as I think this article, State highways in Oregon, covers the difference between signed routes and unsigned highways sufficiently well. Besides, "secret highway number" is not an encyclopedic term, and a neologism besides.
 * I'd already tweaked your edits to Oregon Route 3 before I saw this. -- NORTH talk 22:27, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I was using the secret number terminology after seeing it used elsewhere. I won't object to the article being rejected. Dan ad nauseam 23:02, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I see you're changing the links to reflect what I did on OR 3. If so, you might want to consider tagging the secret highway number article with db-author to nominate it for speedy deletion.


 * Also, please read the message I left on your user talk page. -- NORTH talk 23:06, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


 * As part of the route/highway number cross-reference project, I have revised the OR 99E Bus article and part of the OR 99W article to conform the references to the format NORTH and I have agreed to. Comments always appreciated. Dan ad nauseam 00:39, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

US Highway 320 in Oregon?
The page for U.S. Highway 320 doesn't mention anything about Oregon; it only mentions Wyoming. I've never heard anything about a US 320 in Oregon. Any references? --EngineerScotty 21:46, 15 January 2006 (UTC)


 * It doesn't seem to have existed. The 1925 plan had a US 320 in Idaho and Washington, but nothing in Oregon. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates! ) 06:12, 31 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Er, looking at that a bit more, Oregon is typoed as Washington. So 1925 US 320 would have entered Oregon, but that was never posted, as US 20 was replaced by US 30 in and west of Idaho for the final (late 1926) plan. The US 30 article has some details. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates! ) 06:14, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Redoing the list
Route 372 is not listed in but we have an article on it. Has it been decommissioned? Was it ever a Route, or only a Highway?


 * ODOT lists Route 372 as unassigned as of 1/22/07. Dan ad nauseam 22:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I recommend moving all the articles to either Route X (Oregon) or OR Route X (Oregon) - "Oregon State Route" is a neologism not used by ODOT. I can't figure out whether they use Route or OR Route more often - can someone who knows more about it comment on that? --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates! ) 06:35, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

is a very useful file, by the way. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates! ) 08:00, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Merging equals bad
Since Routes and Highways are entirely different things, these lists should not be merged. However, the routes section on the highway page should be moved here. Routes can run on several different highways (kind of like your commute runs on several different roads). Routes sometimes run on county roads as well as state highways. For example ROUTE Interstate-84 runs on both the Columbia River AND Old Oregon Trail HIGHWAYS. ROUTE 213 runs on Cascade HIGHWAY and Marion County ROADS. Bdag 05:32, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

The new route numbers
I just checked ORS Ch. 366 and the 2002 special session records. I don't see any legislation mandating the new route numbers; are we sure this isn't just a decision within ODOT? Dan ad nauseam 22:22, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Seriously, I think the reference to 2002 legislation is in error. Dan ad nauseam 00:26, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I think you're right. Last time you asked, I looked into it, and can't find anything to say one way or the other.  For now, I'm going to keep it as is with a big tag at the top of the section, since it's pointless to change it to anything else when we can't cite that either.  -- NORTH talk 01:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I think that we should acknowledge the existence of the route numbering project, but leave it at that. The ODOT route list cites dates of establishment of the route numbers and posting status as of May 2005. Dan ad nauseam 03:28, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


 * You're totally right. 2002 was a special session of the legislature and they did not address the issue. The 2001 session was a regular session and no bills for that year refer to the numbering/naming of state highways. --Katt 07:53, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I just noticed that someone is propagating this error on individual route pages. Can the editors do something about this? Dan ad nauseam 22:52, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I have them all on my watchlist and haven't noticed anything. Are you just referring to when the articles were originally created?  If so, then yes, those probably need to be fixed. -- NORTH talk 01:19, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Quite possibly. I noticed it on the OR 551 page, which appears to be an original error. Dan ad nauseam 20:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

OK, I've edited this section on the main page. Dan ad nauseam 21:16, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

State route naming conventions poll/Part2
This state's highway naming convention is up for debate above. Feel free to participate. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs)  05:49, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Flagging of OR 173
Can someone take a look at OR 173 and figure out why it got flagged? 01:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Do you mean the confusing tag that the anon added? It must be because in the intro it says that it is Route 173, and later it says it is Highway 173. Katr67 01:11, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Looking at the IPs talk page and contributions, I think it would be fine to remove the tags, since no reason for the tagging was given in the first place. -- NORTH talk 02:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

OR 569
Just thought I should mention that Beltline Road in Eugene is currently being signed as OR 569. Might be good to add that and make an article. 67.171.228.14 23:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Updated References
With ODOT reissuing its Route Descriptions in 2007, we need to update the articles referencing the prior log. Dan ad nauseam (talk) 08:34, 4 February 2008 (UTC)