Talk:Stefan T. Vail Cooperative House

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Is it unusual to have a building in Ann Arbor, Michigan, that was built in 1853? A rare historical landmark? What is the building's claim to notability?

The vanity stuff needs to go anyway... Weregerbil 01:29, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what to do about this one. Maybe change the prod to an AfD discussion so that more eyes will see it? As there is some change the building is notable somehow. Weregerbil 01:35, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Only the truth is reported here. All contributors are primary sources, as no official historical works concerning Vail house and its residents (both past and present) exist. j

I lived in the house and appreciate that it has been added to the Wiki site. Although I don't think it should be a forum for crazy stories, the article certainly has value for Ann Arbor historians and former co-opers. I don't think adding reasonable, interesting personal experiences to the entry is all that hurtful, either. Even if the article doesn't have universal value, it will have encyclopedic value for someone in the future, and I think that is within the general Wikipedia spirit. - G.W.M.


 * The early versions of the article documented three things: someone drawing people, a party, and a rotten egg in a basement. Those things have now been replaced with an article about the building. A blog is a great place for anecdotes about the rotten egg etc; an encyclopedia not so much. Weregerbil 04:29, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Weregerbil, I agree. The rotten egg had to go. But, I hope members and former-members of the co-op feel comfortable contributing to the site. For example, I think it would be of interest to get some facts from a member that lived in Vail when it was a women's dorm in the 1960's. It would be a primary source with valuable information about early cooperative living, the Ann Arbor campus in the 60's, etc. I think the framework of deletion has made discussion of this article a little snarky. This can't be the first entry that started out as anecdotes but had historical value. -G.W.M.
 * Article content must come from prior documentation. Creating primary sources that record firsthand experiences is forbidden here. Uncle G 11:27, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Stefan T. Valavanis (Vail)
I added two third-party references to the work of Stefan T. Valavanis, one of them from the advertisement in Journal of Economic Literature (20 years after his death). It would be useful for others to locate more information on Vail, simply by searching JSTOR. Yours in cooperation, Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk) 13:21, 6 December 2010 (UTC)