Talk:Steppe

[Comment from Nina]
In a history course it is mentioned that the "Steppe Gradient" is the general sloping trend from east to west of the Steppes. As this is used to explain the migration of many nomadic peoples I was wondering if it was worth noting. Nina

Merging Steppe-Tundra
I just looked at the article called steppe-tundra, it is misleading and should NOT be merged with Steppe. Steppe is is used for thing and Tundra for another.

--Son_of_the_Tundra 12:22, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

It makes no sense to merge with steppe-tundra; steppe-tundra is quite distinct from steppe and tundra. This would be more clear if both articles weren't stubs. Captain Segfault 14:34, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Agreed. Steppe-tundra seems to be some sort of ancient biome. A steppe is a vast plain covered in low grasses. The Steppe or Steppes refer to the great Eurasian plains, especially in central Russia.

Hahaha, that's hilarious. Steppe and tundra are the two climates I picked at complete random for my Social Studies project. Hehehehehehehehehe.Hi There

air pollution, erhem, rather, Wikipollution
'''DON'T USE THIS WEBSITE, TURN BACK NOW PLEASE DO IT. THIS WEBSITE IS ALL WRONG!''' was what was slapped right on the front of the page. Couldn't bear to just delete it, it was so funny. Move it to BJAODN, please. I'm NOT the one who wrote it!

Note on pronounciation
Merriam Webster gives the pronounciation as 'step. This is what I've always heard used. Albrecht 23:23, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

repeats
The page says "The term is also used to denote the climate encountered in regions too dry to support a forest, but not dry enough to be a desert... The soil is considered too moist to be a desert, but too dry to support normal forest life." Whoever wrote this stub needed to proof read for repeats.

Also, the sentance "They are usually found in areas of the world less prone to moisture." is pretty redundant as the fact that it is dry is stated again and and again throughout the article.

2 types of steppe
It should be included that there are 2 types of steppe: the tropical (wet) steppe and temperate steppes (e.g. Russian steppes). Also, a map on this is needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.244.192.17 (talk) 14:13, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Paintings
I took these out of the article, because I don't think they add a whole lot. I think the photos give better representations of what steppes really look like, and I added the one of Patagonia. Cadwaladr (talk) 05:16, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect Temperature Conversion
In the 2nd paragraph, it says "and in winter, –40 °C (–40 °F)."

I'm sure this can't be right seeing as -40c is well below freezing and -40f is not. Someone might want to fix this. :)
 * -40f is indeed well below freezing (freezing is +32f), and is indeed equal to -40c, so it's probably correct. W. P. Uzer (talk) 08:08, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Suggested expansion
The article provides basics of definition and location, but I think could do with more on the ecology of what maintains steppe (grazing? natural fires?), and associated animal and plant life. The corresponding article on prairie seems more informative. --Cedderstk 11:27, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

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Unclear opening sentence
The opening sentence now reads:


 * In physical geography, a steppe (Russian: степь, IPA: [stʲepʲ]) is an ecoregion, in the montane grasslands and shrublands and temperate grasslands, savannas and shrublands biomes, characterized by grassland plains without trees apart from those near rivers and lakes.

Where is the ecoregion? It seems to be in any one of several biomes. How many types of biomes are there? Are there just two biomes—biomes whose components are montane grasslands and shrublands and temperate grasslands, and biomes whose components are savannas and shrublands? Or are there four—montane grassland biomes, shrubland biomes, temperate grassland biomes, and savanna biomes? Are all the biomes characterized by grassland plains?

The problem is that it isn't clear what in governs, because use of the plurals in grasslands, shrublands, grasslands, savannas, and shrublands makes them appear to be the objects of in, but once you read biomes, those plural nouns appear to be noun modifiers of biomes, in which case in ultimately governs biomes.

The best revision would be on in which grassland and shrubland appeared only once, and in which no noun phrase modifies biome. Wordwright (talk) 23:47, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Ukraine steppe image
The image in the article titled "Steppe in Ukraine" actually shows a wheat field. 'Steppe' refers primarily to dry grassland, not cultivated soils or plains. StonerLemonBlues (talk) 18:08, 27 June 2022 (UTC)