Talk:Steve Giddins

External link
Seriously, can anyone provide any justification for linking to Chessgames.com here? What does this website provide to the reader, that any other online or offline collection of chessgames would not? I really don't see anything there. There is ZERO profile information. Nothing that acts as a valid reference for this man's academic or professional history. The link clearly fails several EP guidelines. If anyone can actually spell out a valid reason for including it, I'd listen.--Lecale42 (talk) 17:23, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * The discussion is at WT:CHESS since there are probably 2,000 or more chess bio articles linking to Chessgames.com in EL sections. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 23:02, 24 September 2012 (UTC)


 * The external link here does not provide any reliable information on Steve Giddins as a person. It does link to some games, which may be accurate records, and which may have been played by him. It is not a unique resource for (and let's assume that they are accurate here) his games. You can find those in britbase or chessbase. Therefore, you are not justified in linking only to chessgames in that respect. To do so is merely to favour it commercially - is it not?

I can't see then, why anyone would insist that this chessgames link has to be here. It doesn't fit with the wikipedia policy on external links. If somebody can take that policy, provide just a small detailed explanation as to how and why it fits into the policy, I have ears, and they are listening. I am not at all convinced that wikipedia should blanket link to a website just because it might be acceptable to do so in 1 or 2 (or even 25) cases. That doesn't seem unreasonable or confrontational to me. Please, just write here why it should stay in this instance.--Lecale42 (talk) 23:37, 24 September 2012 (UTC)