Talk:Steven Jay Russell

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What happened to Phillip Morris?[edit]

How long did he get? Is he out? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.214.224 (talk) 01:48, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Probable disorder[edit]

His life pattern seems to fit the classic diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder, particularly as outlined in the book "The Mask of Sanity.

Untitled[edit]

The part about his early life seems to say that being homoseksual made him criminal.. 81.205.145.79 (talk) 20:49, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Are you stupid? 128.211.198.168 (talk) 08:48, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It was illegal based on the sodomy laws. Being outed meant getting fired back then/the anonymous sex doesn't ever really look good. 199.8.13.1 (talk) 06:07, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

photo[edit]

Can we find an old mugshot and crop it? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:01, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox: Criminal[edit]

If I'm reading the article right, he's in prison. Shouldn't we change the infobox and occupation to "former..." or "inmate"? Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How can you Regard his escapes as 'successful' if he was always recaptured. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.96.91.85 (talk) 22:40, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Because his recapture was because of subsequent actions, not as part of the escape. 93.107.28.240 (talk) 23:46, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Because getting caught again wasn't related to the escapings?

link 9[edit]

footnote link 9 doesn't work can anyone find the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.204.156.10 (talk) 04:01, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced Material[edit]

Article has been tagged for needing sources for over a year, and is a BLP. Please feel free to reincorporate below material into the article with appropriate refs. Thanks! Doniago (talk) 14:31, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Location?[edit]

The main article begins by stating he was a business executive who was then fired, then sent to the Harris County jail. Shouldn't that say Houston, Texas? I see in the talk section that this information was removed. Any objection to restoring it?Marzolian (talk) 00:50, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

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The part of the "Escaping from prisons" section dealing the the year 1998 is rather confusing. Perhaps it could be re-written to better clarify the chronology of events in that year.

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WRONG LINK?[edit]

It seems the page on the TDCJ website does not exist anymore. I have found another Steven Russell whose info. seems to match this Steven's. Here's the link (what say ye?): https://inmate.tdcj.texas.gov/InmateSearch/viewDetail.action?sid=05138971

Short description update[edit]

This was obviously wrong, and the additional context is more than important enough to warrant an exception to the observation that most articles only need 40 characters. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 08:36, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

From WP:HOWTOSD - "Editors should keep in mind that short descriptions are meant to distinguish an article from similarly-named articles in search results, and not to define the subject." The shorter description seems sufficient to accomplish that task. DonIago (talk) 14:10, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is not an exercise in brevity. Uses such as {{annotated link}} massively benefit from ever-so-slightly longer entries. I've seen utterly no arguments to the contrary save for robotic rules recital. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 19:41, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Let's see what other editors have to say on the matter then, especially since you can't seem to discuss this without being insulting about it. DonIago (talk) 23:34, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I will request a third opinion on this matter as we have not reached a consensus. DonIago (talk) 03:54, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Third opinion: both factors are important. He's only notable because he kept escaping, but 60 characters is long, and there are multiple shorter options:
  • American con-artist with multiple prison escapes (48)
  • American con-artist w/ multiple prison escapes (46)
  • American con-artist with many prison escapes (44)
  • American con-artist w/ many prison escapes (42)
  • Con-artist with multiple prison escapes (39)
  • Conman w/many prison escapes (28)
~ Argenti Aertheri(Chat?) 14:06, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. My preference would be for something that's under 40 characters in keeping with WP:SD40, but in the interest of moving along over a fairly minor issue, I'd be fine with anything up to 45 characters. Over 45 seems excessive to me. DonIago (talk) 17:05, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fine. I've gone with the 39-char option. I still think that blindly following a guideline which specifically permits a wide variety of exceptions is silly, but this should square that circle (and to be honest I've never been a fan of the way we make nationality so eternally prominent in biographies). Thanks to Argenti Aertheri (talk · contribs) for an amicable resolution here. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 09:29, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]