Talk:Stomach/Archive 1

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What about a sac in physiology? I'm trying to find out. There's basic information at http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=sac. Twilight Realm 22:19, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Tripe, glorious tripe
This article should mention that the stomachs of some animals are used for food, i.e. tripe. 217.155.20.163 01:02, 22 December 2005 (UTC)


 * sofixit. JFW | T@lk  13:32, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Done! Andrew73 23:19, 26 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Why does this article specify that tripe is filled with ur moms anchovies?
 * -Curious Guy


 * The mention of tripe seems completely irrelevant to this article. It would seem appropriate to remove it.  --King V 16:49, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Primary use of the stomach
I read recently that the human stomach primarily evolved to prevent food poisoning, our ancestors had little choice over the quality of food they ate. Thus the role of the stomach is to kill harmful bacteria with hydrochloric acid, encourage the growth of symbiotic bacteria, provide support to the immune system, to act as a "gate keeper" that prevents the entry of tainted food to the lower GI tract and as a storage area...the stomach can temporarily store food, saving energy required to digest food and allowing the allocation of energy to a more prescient need e.g. fleeing a predator.

People who have their stomachs removed live quite well without one, they just have to eat smaller portions and more often. To me, it seems that in the First World the stomach is redundant, we have access to safe fresh food. Diamond Dave 19/06/2006 18:15 UT

This is a very keen observation, and I have seen similiar arguments elsewhere. There have also been claims that this could be used to help obese people, but really I don't know. And yes, we probibly could live without it, but really, why should we? It's still a saftey measure. 143.206.80.170 15:36, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Speaking as a bio/chem A-level student if that quantitfies anything but I'm with you on this and really think the article needs editing and not only on that point.

Acid doesn't 'break down' food, it acts to create a favourable pH envrioment for the pepsin enzymes that are secreted in the stomach. lol

Myth or Fact
I was told that when you drink cold water, the intense change in temperature will actually cause your stomach to build up a layer of fat as insulation.

yup probably, fat is in liquid from as it's heated, thus if it is cold then it will be in solid form, this explain the layer built up from fat.--tearfate 16:16, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

... uh probably it might not have the intense a change after it has gone through the mouth and the esopahgus:D

etymology
"The terms gastro- and gastric (meaning related to the stomach) are derived from the Latin words Ventriculus and Gaster (Greek γαστήρ)."

It is believable that 'gastro-' and 'gastric' derive from 'gaster'. But how does 'ventirculus' come into the picture?? OED makes no mention of 'ventriculus', or 'gaster' for that matter; it says 'gastric' comes from "Greek γάστ(ε)ρ-, γάστήρ". (Of course, we can see 'gaster' in 'γάστήρ', but where is the authority for the derivation from Latin? (And 'ventirculus' ?!) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Joaquin (talk • contribs) 04:00, 18 February 2007 (UTC).

Completely agree!
This title will make it much more easier to find and understant information on the issue. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.123.245.164 (talk) 03:33, 9 March 2007 (UTC).

content here at wrong place?
Seems most of the article is about human stomach, with only first part about stomach in general? Shouldn't the stuff about Human stomach be moved to something like human stomach, leaving here the introduction and add here links to specific stomach types?

I think this is a good idea but suggest that the stomach page is default human with links to - Animal stomach articles in the first section. Alanmcleod 20:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I expected here something about stomach in general + links to specific stomach types (human, cow, etc ...) ... --Territory 19:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, that would be a good idea. cyclosarin 13:25, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Agree, split away! -Ravedave (Adopt a State) 01:37, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Go for it! --God66.159.69.132 15:00, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * While there is no real need for a split unless to counteract confusion, perhaps splitting it would encourage other people to write about those topics. Do it! 67.189.204.154 00:43, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Should the evolution of organs be included in pages?


 * Probably not. It's not really relevant.66.159.69.132 15:29, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

people would usually type stomach. i mean everyone here must have typed stomach to get to this page.

Speaking of tripe
The line "The human stomach has more nerve endings than the human brain" is useless at best - everything has more nerve endings; the brain has none. It should be removed.

I'd remove it myself, but I just signed up and am still intimidated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dystopianday (talk • contribs) 00:12, 17 April 2007 (UTC).

acid levels
I think it's important we find proper documentation on how much acid levels there really are in the human stomach. A few days ago, I was reading a study done on acid levels during use of proton pump inhibitors. The controls seemed to have levels of acid going below pH 1 at certain periods of the day. When I find this study again, I will post the link. Gludwiczak 20:13, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Capacity
There was a CSI episode reference that the stomach can hold at least four liters of food. Could somebody verify that? Janarius 20 January 2006
 * I have heared that the average stomach only holds 1-1.5 litres. I'll check... Ged3000 17:31, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I found the volume of the stomach and entered it under the anatomy heading. Its referenced (hope Ive done it right!) Ged3000 19:11, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I've come across the reference of 4 liters being the approximate maximum volume. Obviously there'd be a lot of variations between individuals, and supposedly some bulimics/bingers have about double that capacity.  Take this with a grain of salt, though. --King V 16:47, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm afraid that isn't true. The human stomach can only old as much as 3 pints. Dabeebo929 71.89.158.81 00:28, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You're thinking of the point at which people feel full, which is, very approximately, one liter. Or perhaps that's where the stomach is filled without stretching.  In any case, this article goes a bit into what the typical total capacity of the stomach is (based on much earlier research) as well as a case study or two that carried the exception to the extreme.--King V 01:51, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Colloquial Stomach ?
Should this article not mention somewhere that colloquially and informally the human abdomen or "belly" is often described as a "stomach"? Jonto 19:46, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Go for it. WLU 20:02, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

request: annotate the microanatomy images
please annotate or label the micro anatomy images and try to find more images that are available for posting in this article or as links in mediawiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tkjazzer (talk • contribs) 05:45, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Control of Gastric Secretions
Can someone please add acetylcholine and histamine to the table that outlines the different factors that lead to gastric changes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.68.104.200 (talk) 10:06, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Diseases of the Stomach
Someone screwed up this section and I don't know how to fix it. --66.81.159.23 (talk) 21:26, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Mucous cells of the stomach.
The gastric glands of the stomach do NOT contain goblet cells. Goblet cells in the stomach are an abnormal finding, and a form of metaplasia. They are properly called mucous neck cells. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NikeTenis (talk • contribs) 23:34, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Esophageal Sphincter
I was under the impression there wasn't actually any smooth muscle here. 149.166.137.215 10:13, 8 March 2007 (UTC) That is correct - The 'oesophogeal sphincter' is not an anatomical sphincter, it is merely a narrowing due to muscles attached to the diaphragm. this should be corrected! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.250.5.248 (talk) 07:23, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

The Large Intestine is where most water absorption occurs.

Absorbs water ?
Is it true that the stomach absorbs water ? I'm no specialist, but I thought that the stomach only absorbed (and to a small degree) lipid-soluble substances. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Henkeldg (talk • contribs) 18:27, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It absorbs water and ethanol. - Richard Cavell (talk) 22:01, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

This article is incomplete
Someone's put a lot of effort into this article, but it's quite incomplete. In particular, I think we need - histology, peptic ulcer disease, gastroscopy, gastro-esophageal reflux, common operations on the stomach. - Richard Cavell (talk) 22:02, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Size description
"size of a football" seems a bit vague. What sort of football? Deflated or inflated? 94.14.143.164 (talk) 12:09, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

what cells secrete what and their location in a table
ex. gastrin //  x location //  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.125.28.187 (talk) 01:30, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Absorption
Hi,

I have just added a small section on absorption in the stomach. I have no time for references, so please add any if you can, and feel free to edit this section as needed. Cygnus_hansa (talk) 02:44, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Vitamin B12 is not absorbed in the stomach. The acid in the stomach breaks down B12-protein complexes so that it can be absorbed later and parietal cells secrete intrinsic factor which helps B12 get absorbed 'later on in the small intestine'.  (see those articles, they're well-cited, unlike the section here.) CrocodilesAreForWimps (talk) 17:37, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Body of stomach
Unnecessarily fragmented display; information could be readily displayed on stomach article; would improve both articles to have the small amount of information displayed on the main article; would also enhance readability by giving more context to the information; could be re-expanded at a later date if necessary. LT910001 (talk) 06:15, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

✅ So you don't have to check. -- :- )  Don  07:33, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Cardia
These articles significantly duplicate each other's information and, as well as the reasons described, additionally would significantly benefit quality if the information was displayed in the same place LT910001 (talk) 06:20, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

✅ So you don't have to check. -- :- )  Don  07:33, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

More duplication
Stomach almost duplicates Digestion. I am going put the best of both sections in Digestion (where it really belongs) and add < at Control of secretion and motility. -- :- )  Don  07:18, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Never mind. I find we have pieces of digestive system here and there.  Some human and some generic.  I'm not qualified to decide how these pieces should be assembled. -- :- )   Don  07:50, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Stomach pictures
Why are there no pictures of an actual stomach here. I'm sure there are some available ones. ĚĚĚĚWhy doen't u put 1 in here ur self\ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.56.63.137 (talk) 01:31, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Great source
"The stomach in health and disease" - 10.1136/gutjnl-2014-307595 (from Gut). JFW &#124; T@lk  13:00, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Spelling issue
In the Structure section, one spelling of millilitres is inconsistent with the rest of the sentence. I've tried changing this myself, but for some reasons when I do the software also ruins a BBC News source elsewhere in the paragraph. After several unsuccessful attempts to correct the spelling without causing this problem, I've undone my efforts. If anyone here knows how to do it properly, that'd be great.94.3.52.32 (User ) 10:38, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I've made the change for you (milliliters → millilitres). I'm not sure why your edit removes the BBC source, but thanks for your your efforts. —Bruce1eetalk 11:08, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Stomach holding
It can contains up to 1 liter according to the article, up to 4 liters according to other languages wikipedia articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:E35:8A8D:FE80:F519:7FF4:8B9B:973C (talk) 11:24, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Gastric emptying redirects here
What is gastric emptying? 4.59.13.106 (talk) 17:55, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

We should reference this in the article – Craig Davison (talk) 17:28, 6 April 2018 (UTC)