Talk:Structural inequality

Changes
We have applied our work in progress draft, though I forgot to move the previous article first. Can someone help us out with that? Again, further suggestions to the current draft will be helpful! We're still cleaning up the citations. Jeffree lee (talk) 16:24, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Also, please note the the current focus is on structural inequality in the United States, and we would greatly appreciate help in continuing to expand the scope of this article. FYI, I've created a new page for the existing content under Structural inequality in education. Jeffree lee (talk) 22:20, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Initial Proposed Changes: Expanding the Scope of the Article
I am working with a partner to edit this page as a class project. I recommend that this page join the WikiProject group "Sociology" and any other pages that are deemed relevant by the Wikipedia community. My partner and I have come up with a list of proposed changes to the article and would greatly appreciate feedback. While this page provides very comprehensive and thorough information regarding structural inequality in education as well as racial discrimination, I feel that it would benefit from additional sections such as structural inequality in employment, housing, and healthcare. I also think that the element of gender discrimination should be discussed since it definitely plays a significant role in impeding certain groups from equal opportunities. I think this page would provide a more holistic overview of structural inequality and its ramifications with the addition of these new sections, and any other sections that people see as necessary. For our research, we will be consulting scholarly journal articles, such as "The New Geography of Inequality in Urban America" (Massey 2004). We will also consult the UNRISD and books that cover topics related to the different areas of structural inequality that we intend to cover. LWang1991 (talk) 20:18, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

I am working with LWang1991 on this class project for Rice University's SOCI 280: Introduction to Poverty, Justice, and Human Capabilities. In addition to her comments, I would like to add that we will be adding another section devoted to tracing some of the history of structural inequality, especially as it relates to development. We plan to reference a number of our class readings from the UNRISD, in addition to more specific articles on the four topics. We are definitely open to new ideas and constructive critiques of our planned changes. Jeffree lee (talk) 20:37, 15 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Hello. I just want to say welcome and that overhauling this article with the additional topics you've mentioned seems like a good idea. If I can just ask one favour, maybe it's already in your agenda, but please try and not restrict the subject matter too closely to the United States. It's a topic with international dimensions, in many respects. Even if that's outside your interests please bear it in mind anyway. -- zzuuzz (talk) 07:40, 16 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi zzuuzz, thanks for the comment! We'll definitely try our best to keep an international perspective on our overhaul. Admittedly, a lot of the resources we have access to may tend to focus on structural inequality in the United States, but if we can't directly speak to the international scope, we will leave the article open to contributions from experts. Jeffree lee (talk) 00:28, 19 October 2011 (UTC)


 * After discussing the scope of the project with our professor, it looks like we will have to limit the scope of our contribution to specifically the United States to be able to reasonably finish the project by the end of the semester. Currently, we are looking into creating a separate page dealing specifically with Structural inequality in the United States, and perhaps leaving a stub for the general structural inequality page for someone to expand upon in the future. Alternatively, we could leave the page as is but create a section specifically on the United States, but that might give an unbalanced impression initially. Jeffree lee (talk) 04:00, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It was just a thought. I'd have thought it would preferable to work on this page, add as much US-specific research as you like, and use generic subheadings such as "employment, housing, and healthcare" which can be extended with research from other countries when someone else gets around to it. But in any case be bold, and good luck. Feel free to drop me a note if you need any help with Wikipedia's peculiarities. -- zzuuzz (talk) 08:27, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

What to do with the existing article
I would like to consider moving the current contents to a new article dealing specifically with "Education and Structural Inequality" since it seems too specific for an article on "Structural Inequality" in general. Can someone with perhaps more experience with Wikipedia help clarify what the best practice would be for this situation? Jeffree lee (talk) 20:37, 15 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I would suggest structural inequality in education is made into its own section, with a summary of the issues and a link to the fuller dedicated article (with the current content) on the narrower subject. To see how that's done, take a look at an article like Education. There is some advice at WP:SPLIT when you're ready, or you can just give me a ping. -- zzuuzz (talk) 07:40, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Gender
This section needs a complete overhaul. Ever reference appears to be around 20 years old, and certain claims, like the pay gap, have been shown to be non-existent today. At least in regard to men earning more than women. More and more it is the other way around in developed countries.