Talk:Sturgill Simpson

Merle Haggard
Is it worth adding Merle Haggard's, may he rest in peace, opinion of Sturgill to his profile? Joel S Bateman (talk) 20:14, 7 April 2016 (UTC)


 * While I love the Hag #RIP I don't think this is something that should be on Simpson's page.... - Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 12:37, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Band members
I removed the section on band members as I know this has changed throughout the years. I started to put it into the history section showing the changes but became too confusing. I removed the entire section for now as I am not sure it really adds to the page, but would love some feedback if anyone disagrees.--DoubleuWW (talk) 22:30, 15 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Hey I saw you added a lot of content to the page but deleted also some content like this. I am going to add the band thing back because that was from his current lineup so I think it should be in there. Also, why delete the Nirvana song? Also, your citations are sort of a mess. Are you using the visual editor or building them from scratch? There are easier ways and they would be easier to reuse if you use a different naming convention like I was using previously. Also the article honestly has WAY too many citations. If you are going to pull content from all these citations it's one thing, but also Simpson hasn't had the kind of career to warrant 60 citations, some of which are not from great sources. I may try to clean up these things but it's sort of a lot what you've done to the page. Also, it would be good if you wrote a sentence about yourself on your user page so your user name isn't red anymore. It's better if it's blue so people will not scrutinize your edits too much. Overall I understand you are doing a lot of work here, but I'd love to help you a bit and maybe work collaboratively so that you aren't completely re-doing pages that sort of don't need the work. There are loads of other pages that need help but this one was in good shape -- didn't need so much. I mean this all in the most friendly way. Please write back! -- Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 23:30, 15 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks . You know, I actually debated on whether to remove the members or try to introduce it into the history. In the end, I removed it, but left a note here so people would see what I was doing. I really didn't see a difference either way so no harm no foul. For the references, I used as many as I could to show diversity. Thought it would help to support the edits since some of the information is talked about in multiple sources. Again, I guess its a style preference but I will keep it in mind. I am not sure about Nirvana as I don't recall removing it. Could have been from copy and pasting when I was constructing the edits. I don't normally look for pages that need worked on - although sometimes I do - I like to work on music pages that interest me which is what led me here. If there is a list of pages that need worked on, let me know where to find it and I will see if I am familiar with any of the artists/songs/albums and do some work on them. I also build the references from scratch but I guess I need to check out the visual editor - sorry. For the userpage, I kind of like the red link, but feel free to mark it up if you think it would be better. Either way is fine with me. Thanks for reaching out and hopefully we can collaborate together in the future. --DoubleuWW (talk) 00:47, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

sobriety
Ok updating july 9th. I'm gonna go ahead and edit the page, delete the line in personal life about him being sober. Unless somebody convinces me not to. Sorry I don't know how to do wikipedia so well. 104.230.61.204 (talk) 16:00, 9 July 2016 (UTC) Jeremy Bailey, Cleveland OH


 * I read the NPR piece cited as source for Sturg being sober "since he was 28". I don't think this is accurate. NPR states that he found sobriety "for the first time" at that age. I think it is wrong to infer that he has been sober ever since. Going by "Turtles" lyrics, I find it unlikely in fact. Just my two cents... -JEremy Bailey, Cleveland OH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.230.61.204 (talk) 15:50, 7 July 2016 (UTC)


 * If Simpson is speaking about his sobriety in multiple press outlets, it seems like it is okay to put into the article. I would argue to include it. -- Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 09:19, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Bluegrass genre
I have been removing the newly added bluegrass genre because Simpson is not being called a bluegrass artist by the media. He recently released one bluegrass album after lots of country albums, and the media have not decided that he is now a bluegrass artist. If there is a respected published source saying "bluegrass musician Simpson" or "Simpson the bluegrass guy" then I'll reverse my reversions.

Other musical artists have released albums of a genre different than their core genres. For instance, Willie Nelson released Stardust in 1978, and Somewhere Over the Rainbow in 1981, both of which are albums of pop standards. Barbra Streisand released a classical music album, Classical Barbra, in 1976. But nobody is calling Willie a pop singer, or Barbra a classical singer. Same with Sturgill. He's only going to be a bluegrass artist when the media start calling him that. Binksternet (talk) 02:40, 3 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I tried multiple times to add Bluegrass to the genres on the Sturgill Simpson page and quite unreasonably had my ip blocked for a year for this based on the false claim that I added unsourced information. None of the other genres are sourced and now there are two Bluegrass albums attributed to this artist. Here is a quote from the email announcing the newest album proclaiming himself in his own words that Sturgill Simpson is indeed a Bluegrass songwriter.


 * “But as a benefit of the musicians all getting to know each other and feeling more comfortable, we took more chances and felt more like a band. That gave me the confidence to come in with songs that I was a little more worried how they would translate to bluegrass—but weirdly, it just underscored that, in the end, I guess I’m just a bluegrass songwriter.”


 * Please take the action of unblocking me. I cannot think of any other sources that would be necessary but I will gladly dig deeper into interviews and reviews. But the fact that the artist considers himself a Bluegrass songwriter is certainly more important than what media has called him. Verity43 (talk) 14:49, 12 December 2020 (UTC)


 * If your IP range on the outskirts of Portland, Oregon, was blocked for repeatedly adding the bluegrass genre without a reference to support it, then if you do the same thing with your new username, you will be in violation of WP:MULTIPLE and your new username will be blocked, too. So don't get in trouble that way.
 * Regarding Simpson's own opinion of his music, Wikipedia takes interest in such things, relaying the information to the reader, but a musician's own thoughts about their musical genre are not what we use to define them. Rather, the topic is defined by WP:SECONDARY sources such as music critics and musicologists. Simpson talking about his genre is a primary source. When secondary sources start saying "Simpson the bluegrass songwriter" then we can add bluegrass to the infobox. Binksternet (talk) 16:06, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Makes very little sense that a secondary source is regarded over a primary source but so it goes. Verity43 (talk) 18:17, 12 December 2020 (UTC)