Talk:Sudanese Armed Forces

Major Problems
The article gave an uncited troop strength that was inconsistent with other Wikipedia articles. Most of the other content in the article was uncited for over a year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nogburt (talk • contribs) 21:55, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Should have been fixed now. Buckshot06 (talk) 03:04, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Google Translate translation of Arabic wikipedia article on SAF
[Edit] Historical background

Establishment is due to the Sudanese army and the Kingdom of Kush Kush Kush attributed to bin welding and took this name during the coronation Kashta the first king of the Fifth Dynasty and Twenty-Nubian who invaded Egypt included.

Known as the troop People's Armed arose prior to 1955 and knew then strongly defend the Sudan, which is composed of a number of soldiers Sudanese under the command of the British army occupied after 1956, any post-independence has been configured Sudanese army (People's Armed Forces) in all teams began Infantry Division, and Navy and Air Force and other.

And is considered the Sudanese army strong army has no longer strength to technological superiority but to the doctrines and unique experience rare has been the army of the status of combat since the ((World War II)) and to recently, and despite the fact that war is unpleasant but that sustainability creates a cumulative experience of very high .. This is not available to other armies is the most powerful armed by Sudan. Of the most prominent categories of military culture in the Sudan is a saying: military action and, in the meaning that the military has to act accordingly and find a solution under any circumstances, Thama responsibility and not provide any justification for the failure.

This does not forget the ferocity and valor warrior Sudanese understanding of the people of discernment and redemption, sacrifice and prefer death and martyrdom hundred times for the performance of their duty to protect the supply and religion and the homeland, Fbisttaat soldier Sudanese Bazimth and determination and prowess, and his sacrifice to stand in front of the darkest of the risks and confrontations and this proven through history from the time of Guerilla fighter Ali Abdel-Latif and others.

The Sudanese army of distinguish armies in the region, one of the traits that are known for, and bear witness to wars in which he participated, such as war in southern Sudan and the Second World War, where she teams in battles in Mexico, when Sudan was occupied by Britain, has participated in several external and internal proved during which the power, efficiency and excellence is the most important defeat Italians from the city of Kassala in the east of the country, that victory which inspired the British Prime Minister Churchill and make it adjusted for surrender to the Germans as stated later. And participated in the liberation of Sinai in 1973 from the Zionist enemy and also participated in the war against Israel from southern Lebanon and was part of the Arab deterrent forces in southern Lebanon.

Battled for more than 50 years in the civil war in southern Sudan in August 1955 and until the year 2005, which ended with the signing of the Naivasha peace.

Made up the infrastructure of the Sudanese army of massive military force is in the factories of the armored vehicles and heavy machinery and factories of arms and ammunition and also has personnel trained in best practice and evidenced by the proliferation of Sudanese army officers in the various Arab armies in the functions of advisory, training and enjoy the military regime strictly.

It is worth Balzkr that the Foundation Sudanese military seized power in Sudan, four times the first was in November 18, 1958, led by General Ibrahim Abboud even revolution October 30, 1964 and the second was in May 25, 1969, led by Jaafar Nimeiry and even an uprising April 6, 1985 and received after the Field Marshal Abd al-Rahman gold bracelet and this The third attempt was the fourth in the June 30, 1989, led by Brigadier Omar al-Bashir until now. This and there are many military coups did not succeed in seizing power and, for example, leading a coup Hashim Atta in July 1971 against Jaafar Nimeiry and the movement of Saad Mohamed Nur 1976, and the movement of 28 Ramadan against Omar al-Bashir in April 1990. [Edit] War College Sudanese

Is a military college, the first in Sudan and is through to enter the army for Sudanese Students seeking to enter the army and gain military ranks, and logo (Honor - Duty - home), the duration of study is four years after it became part of the University of Repeat military. Graduate student of Bbclarios of Administrative Sciences and the rank of lieutenant or lieutenant. With the observation that the soldiers and technicians can be recruited through special centers not related to the faculty. Please note that the College hosts students from many Arab and African countries such as Yemen and the UAE, Palestine, and Central Africa, Chad and others. [Edit] Military Industrialization Commission

Sudan is Omar al-Bashir in the era of self-sufficient countries in the field of manufacture of light weapons and armored vehicles and ammunition.

For background. Buckshot06 (talk) 03:04, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

name
Sudan People's Armed Forces is much more common and a simple google search you get alot more results, it was this name for very long time which means long term consensun, also the move were not sourced and is in fact WP:OR Hopelesscross (talk) 19:03, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Sudan People's Armed Forces is the name used by the Library of Congress Country Study of 1991. It is now obsolete - all reliable sources use SAF. You will see from the ANI discussion that my decision to move the page is supported by authoritative sources - the International Institute for Strategic Studies, the Small Arms Survey, and indeed the United Nations Security Council reports. Buckshot06 (talk) 00:57, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I've moved the page name back to SAF, as backed by the discussion at Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive747. Buckshot06 (talk) 09:59, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Sudan's people are very protective of their contry and they work their hardest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.3.55 (talk) 00:20, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

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Tanks and Vehicles
The quantities listed are astronomical. A quick snoop around brought out varying numbers, such as here: http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=sudan, and here: https://www.rbth.com/news/2016/09/21/sudan-to-get-170-russian-t-72-tanks_631993. Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.244.7 (talk) 01:20, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Use the latest IISS Military Balance figure, when someone can access it. Buckshot06 (talk) 02:14, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Coup attempts and actual coups by SAF and others, 1957-76
[civilian uprising of 26 October 1964] Attempted Lt Khalid Hussein army coup leading 300 trainees in Kharotum, 18 Dec 1966 (to p186-7); Numeiri coup 25 May 1969; plot against Numeiri inc officers, NCOs, 20 July 1969; [Muslim brotherhood coup attempt, 13 December 1969] (p187); Brig Abdullah Mohamed Adam & NCOs coup attempt 12 Jan 1970; [Ansar suppression March-April 1970, another Muslim Brotherhood attempt, 19 Nov 1970]; Major Hashem Atta’s coup attempt, 21-23 July 1971 (p188-9); Coup plot including young officers, 22 July 1972; Coup plot including, possibly Brig Abdel Shenan of the March 1959 coup; Arab Nationalists and Muslim brotherhood, brigadier’s son, 25 January 1973 (p189); [Khartoum Uni student demonstrations, 31 August 1973]; Army officers’ coup attempt, 7 October 1974 (p190); Leftist army officers, 19 May 1975; Right-wing army officers attempted coup, capture radio station, 5 September 1975. Led by Major Hasan Hussein Othman; Incursion from Libya, Sadiq al-Mahdi, military leaders were Colonel Mohamed Nuur Said, 2 July 1976 (p191).
 * Dunstan M. Wai, "The African-Arab Conflict in the Sudan," Africana Publishing, 1981, Table VI, lists coup attempts and coups by the army as: 12 June 1957; Abboud coup 17 Nov 1958 (to p184); March, May, and November 1959 coups (p185);

Wai specifically says that the listing does not necessarily include all attempted coups against the Nimery regime, only those reported by Govt or foreign press. For background Buckshot06 (talk) 02:14, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * July 1976 - "In 1976, a force of mostly Ansar (1,000 Mahdists) supported by the Ikhwan (numbered at only 33, including Ghazi), took over the military garrisons in Khartoum and seized power for a few hours. Ghazi was a part of the Sudanese National Front, which had received military training in Libya and tried to take back the government from Gaafar Nimeiri’s “communist” dictatorship, and he was an active part of the Muslim Brotherhood’s National Islamic Front." Buckshot06 (talk) 11:54, 6 February 2020 (UTC)