Talk:Sugarcult

Categories
Someone needs to remove them from "Canadian Musical Groups" because these guys are from California.

Band Name
"The origin of the band's name is obscure. Band members have given various comical responses on this point, including that the band was their simple plan to avoid getting a "real" job." <-- This same exact text is on the Simple Plan page. Seems to make more sense for that band... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.1.87.139 (talk) 14:07, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

vandalism
someone vandalised this group being unregistered and unknowing, i don't know how to correct this

the album lists were delted and replaced by "poop"

Genre
I understand that genres are often subjective put surely these are classic power-pop? Pop punk brings to mind bands more like the buzzcocks, ramones etc. I propose at least adding power-pop for clarity and a more accurate definition if no-one objects.

i object! they have less of a pop sound than most powerpop bands. plus id say theyre less mainstream than powerpop bands like hellogoodbye so i think we should take it off. pop punk fits them more in my opinion. Burger king 20:07, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

i disagree, power-pop bands, at least, at this point in time arent often very mainstream. They certainly arent pop punk, i dont think there is any such genre these days, they dont have anything it common with the buzzcocks, undertones, ramones or the clash that i can see. They are far more like power-pop bands like fountains of wayne and blink 182 etc. They fit in the genre perfectly. Pop punk is definetly extremely misleading. it suggests part of the seventies movement. I dont see why power-pop, which i'm sure most people would agree is a better description of their style, shouldnt be included.

i guess so. but what pop punk refers to now is different than the classic punk that is called pop punk. and powerpop just makes them sound more soft or something. i dont know... i guess youre right. whateverBurger king 04:00, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I've bought Lights Out and burned a CD which I now listen to in my car every time I drive to school, and these guys are definitely more Rock than Pop. Vjasper 06:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey, old debate but thought that it'd be better to add my comment here rather than start a new "Genre" section.
 * Sugarcult combine many aspects from many genres including Power pop, Pop punk, Alternative Rock, Punk rock, Indie rock, and others. The band has said that they personally disagree with being confined to genres. We could practically have an entire article devoted to genres that they could fit into and their influences, so how about we just keep it simple? Two or three genres should do. Lemme know your views though! Apollosfire 15:37, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I personally think we should go with Pop/Punk Rock as it's the genre that the CDs have. (I think, it's based off my IPOD which I may not have changed.(Thebigbradwolf (talk) 21:06, 8 January 2008 (UTC))

certainley rock, as they have gone more rock recently. power pop for early music and pop punk for inbetween (between the latest and early stuff) loveyourfaithLoveyourfaith (talk) 15:43, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Album Leak
Is the leaking of the album really noteworthy?

Band Member Pages?
Are the separate pages for the band members really necessary? The one for Marko 72 only has a couple sentences.

Single of the Week
"Los Angeles" was featured as an iTunes Song of the Week in September 2006. I think that this could be mentioned somewhere.

Tim Pagnotta redirecting
Pressing on the Tim Pagnotta link redirects to sugarcult ... he should have his own page like the other band members instead of just redirecting.


 * I've started a page for Tim, but it's a little short on content at the moment. Please contribute! :) Apollosfire 11:53, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Overlinking?
I have reverted the edits by 24.111.196.47. The edits linked the band members' names (in the intro) to their articles. The names were already linked to their articles in the infobox, and I believe that the links distracted from the readability of the introduction. However, if anyone else thinks otherwise, we can discuss this here. :) Apollosfire 22:26, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Album Chart Positions
I removed the following info from the page as it messed up the layout: Start Static: Billboard 200- #194, Heatseekers- #4, Top Independant Albums- #6 Palm Trees and Power Lines: Billboard 200- #46, Top Independant Albums- #1 Lights Out: Billboard 200- #64

If someone can find a way to add it that fits into the style of the page, then please do so.. If not, I'll probably end up figuring out a way.

A source would also be appreciated for that info, as well as the Single chart positions (that I left on the page). Apollosfire 18:54, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Picture
can someone help me? i have a very nice pic of these guys performing in tucson az, maybe i could upload it to the profile, the problem is i dont know how. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 189.158.40.59 (talk • contribs).
 * Hi 189.158.40.59! May I suggest that you create an account? It will make things a lot easier, and you'll be able to keep track of your edits too. To upload a file, click the "File upload wizard" link on the left-hand side of any Wikipedia page, or here. Let me know if you need anymore help! Apollosfire 01:25, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Trivia
Removed the following from the article:
 * Marko originally plays bass for other bands that he had played in earlier in his life. He still plays in a band called Bad Astronaut on the side. Houston: We Have A Drinking Problem, Twelve Small Steps - One Giant Disappointment, War of the Worlds, and Acrophobe are all albums of theirs where Marko plays bass.
 * Throughout the bandmembers' careers, Marko has played in the bands Nerf Herder, $wingin' Utter$, The Lapdancers, The Ataris, The Lost Kittenz, Bad Astronaut, and Sugarcult (7). Airin has played in just Sugarcult (1). Tim has played in just Sugarcult (1). Kenny has played in Sugarcult and Lefty (2). and Ben, though no longer a member, only player in Sugarcult also (1).
 * Sugarcult has a few other albums that came out before their debut hit album Start Static. Including Eleven, Wrap Me Up In Plastic (Two Versions), Blue Skies, get Street Cred (Two Versions), and Live at the Lincoln Lounge. They are very rare and not available anywhere on the internet.

The first point seems like it'd be more appropriate on Marko's page. The second should probably be split between each of the individual members' pages. The third is complicated: Eleven and Wrap Me Up in Plastic both appear in the Discography (and in fact have their own articles). You'll also need some evidence of Blue Skies, get Street Cred, and Live at the Lincoln Lounge existing.. I know that they exist, but proof is almost as rare as the albums themselves!

Having said all of that, I'll probably try to sort out all of that out. Just thought that I'd drop a note here to explain why I removed it! Apollosfire 01:25, 2 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I also just removed:
 * "They get paid $40'000 to play every show, which is kind of a ridiculous amount of money."


 * as it seems unencyclopedic, in addition to being unsourced. If you disagree, feel free to discuss it here. Apollosfire 22:59, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

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Added fair use rationale. --Featherfin 15:50, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Trivia
Helpful facts???

There is way too much trivia on the page. Kokiri kid (talk) 06:12, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

It might be worth adding to the appearances section that their post can be seen many times in Anthony Jr's room (hanging on the door) on the Sopranos. 70.53.108.24 (talk) 20:41, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

First album
It says on the first albums article that the demo was done in 1997, but it also says in the main one that sugarcult formed in 1998. So i'll change it to 1997... either that or change the demo release to 1998.

loveyourfaithLoveyourfaith (talk) 15:45, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Airin Older redirecting

Pressing on the Airin Older link redirects to sugarcult ... he should has his own page. Why is it redirecting? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.167.238.41 (talk) 02:29, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

6th Studio Album could be In the Works!?!?!?!
Ok, I just noticed that the bands official facebook page was updated with "Sugarcult Need new sounds & fresh inspiration!

What bands/songs are all you sexy beasts listening to these days?

New, old, guilty-pleasure, underground and/or mainstream, it's all fair game..." I haven't checked sugarcult.com yet, but I will soon, anyway - Inspiration would indicate they're working on something :D I'm in the process of uncovering info about this. Will comment when/if I do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.209.221.60 (talk) 21:30, 13 January 2011 (UTC)