Talk:Superjail!

Extravagant Grammar

I like words, but this is Wikipedia, very few people are going to know or want to know what the word "Eponymous" means, nor should they have to; there's already a very fitting word, "Fictional".

195.222.108.158 (talk) 12:35, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

I believe "Eponymous" is actually used quite a bit on Wikipedia, and it's a word that most people should know anyway. --LoganTheGeshrat (talk) 18:20, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Saying that anyone should know anything let alone a word used mainly in academia is ignorant, arrogant, and insuferable. Please keep your opinions to yourself when facts are being dealt.

General Changes

Hi, I'm LoganTheGeshrat, and I started the super jail article. This part of the talk page is for general changes to the article. I plan to add an Infobox about the show sooner or later. Feel free to, like, completely revamp the page if you like, I'm sure the people that edit about TV alot can do much better than I can on this page. You may have noticed a part of The Warden's character bio is in italics for no reason, if someone could fix this it would be appreciated. Thanks for all your help!

LoganTheGeshrat 15:52, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

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The Warden-----

Shouldn't there be some description of his superhuman abilities in his character bio? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.239.115.229 (talk) 10:00, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

The Other Superjail

I found out there's another Superjail article called "Super Jail" it's shorter than this one, do you think we should ask an admin to delete it?

LoganTheGeshrat 15:59, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Easier to just redirect from that page to here, which I just did. Here's the text of it, if there's anything that needs to be incorporated into this article:

Super Jail is an Animated television series from the makers of Barfight and Space War, Christy Karacas, airing on May 13th, 2007 on Adult Swim The pilot episode is currently on the Adult Swim website. The premise of the show has been described as "Hardened criminals are imprisoned on the Moon." The Series is expected to begin in 2008.

The driving force of the story is the Warden; a mad genius with Willy Wanka-esc eccentricities. As he himself explains in the pilot: the Warden inherited a vast fortune and many reasources from his father The Prison Mogul; all of which he vowed to put towards furthering the cause of justice by mastering the "art of incarceration". He claims however that the world was "not ready" for his methods, so he was forced to take his cause outside the system by creating his enormous, high-tech, neigh-inescapable, extra dimensional prison facility: Super Jail. The Warden is assisted in this effort by Jarred, Super Jail's worry-wort chief administrator; Alica, Super Jail's pitiless strong-arm head guard and Jail-Bot, a robot the Warden apparently created with a wide variety of built in tools and abilities that make it a one-robot capture and guard staff. Super Jails has some other staff, but they are mostly undefined backgroun characters.

The Warden keeps Super Jail stocked with hardened criminals who the conventional system has in one way or another failed to control. Most often, these are prisoners who have escaped or been released from "real jail". Jail Bot is apparently sent on regular trips to apprehend these criminals and bring them back to Super Jail, where they are hastily drugged, greeted by the Warden, and confined to their cells. It is unclear weather the Warden has any intention of ever rehabilitating or even releasing any of Super Jail's inmates or if he simply plans to keep them confident indefinitely. Many inmates are killed on an apparently daily basis which causes little or no concern on the Warden's part, though it does not seem that the deaths of the inmates is a specific goal of the Warden's.(The Warden was animated to be extremely sexy)

The Warden prides himself on maintaining an atmosphere of barely controlled chaos throughout Super Jail at all times; he appears to feel this is somehow beneficial to the incarceration process. To this end, he often relies on/tolerates the presence of two of Super Jails most troublesome inmates; the identical technology experts known as the Twins. The Twins are constantly spying on the staff of Super Jail and attempt to sabotage the Warden's various plans for super jail; apparently to no end greater than their own amusement. The Warden seems to welcome this sabotage as it contributes to his prized chaotic atmosphere. In the pilot, the Warden plans to outfit the inmates with bunny suit uniforms in the hopes of pacifying them. However, the twins hack the uniform order and seem half the inmates outfitted instead with wolf suits, leading to extremely bloody and destructive infighting. In response, the Warden takes steps to increase the violence between the inmates in order to use the corpses of the inmates slaughtered in process to replace a shipment a meat that was spoiled in a refrigerator accident. Such occurrences appear to be business as usual at Super Jail.

Madlobster 06:59, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi there!

I enjoyed Superjail, and I would enjoy contributing to this article. The thing is, the source material is so scant that I think we may have differing interpretations of it (so far)... for example, I am very unsure that the Twins are inmates. They clearly have priviledges above inmates, but it's unclear to me if they were originally inmates, or brought in by the Warden for his own mysterious purposes. I also think that since Superjail appears to be the Warden's mentality made real, it's quite possible he was, in fact, planning everything.

Tritium h3 16:16, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I'd like to add some notes about the animation style of Superjail. This may be cause for some debate, though, and I can't really cite sources except my own impressions.

Connections I'd like to make:

limited animation

Yellow Submarine

Fantastic Planet

Peter Max

Tritium h3 21:27, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Fantstic Planet seems to be a bit out of place there, and I don't really understand limited animation, but the other two have an art style similar to Superjail, and it would be good if we made some kind of connection there, even if we just stated, well, that the art style was similar.

LoganTheGeshrat 00:29, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Evinced

'Evinced' actually is a widely recognized word.. it basically means 'evidenced'. Either one works for me though. Enjoy. MGlosenger 22:20, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Velocipede is a word too, but nobody know what the hell it means so I just use bicycle instead of being a pretentious jackass. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.180.87.83 (talk) 05:09, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Removing the part about it airing in 2008

The citation needed tag has been up for a long time. There is no evidence I can find that the show got picked up by Adult Swim. I'm removing the part about it airing in 2008. I'd be happy if someone put it back up (with proper citation) as I'm hoping to see more episodes of the show, but it looks like it isn't going to happen in the near future.

News from Augenblick Studios!

In response to an inquiry, I received an email from Aaron Augenblick:

We're currently working on ten episodes for adult swim. We're supposed to premiere in October. Wait til you see the new stuff. It's wild!

Check out cartoon brew for a big Superjail article.

Aa

This was sent on March 4th, 2008. I don't know what the best way to get this new information into the article is, but I hope it's useful.

EvilGnomeAndy (talk) 23:21, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

The correct title of this show is "Superjail!" with the "!", not "Superjail". The title NEEDS TO BE CHANGED!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.10.88.69 (talk) 18:09, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

You know....you're right. Is there anyone we could contact about this?--LoganTheGeshrat (talk) 02:17, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Wait, maybe you're not right. On IMDb, it's "Superjail", and they're usually pretty reliable. --LoganTheGeshrat (talk) 23:22, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Jacknife intros?

Since every episode has a Jacknife intro, should we at least quickly mention how he got arrested in the quick summary? The Phantomnaut (talk) 22:37, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

No, because the first twenty seconds normally has nothing to do with the other eleven minutes. It would be like listing the chalkboard and couch gags before every Simpsons episode summary. --207.255.199.12 (talk) 04:05, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

To be fair, it is relevant a few times, such as the serial killer and little girl episodes. Those are exceptions, though, and they do mention him already. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 04:22, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Episode list

The episode list should only be spun off if there's a second season, which I hope happens. --207.255.199.12 (talk) 04:05, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Title

Should this be at Superjail? Can we get some citations on copyright and so on for it being at 'Superjail!'? Thanks. ThuranX (talk) 07:02, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Citations aren't needed. It's in the title card, which is in the infobox plain as day, and Adult Swim labels it as such themselves. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 07:10, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Just an observation.

This is in Alice's part of the article: "... which makes the viewers believe that she might be a transsexual (something the Warden appears to be unaware of, or perhaps doesn't mind)."

Do you recall the Combaticus episode wherein the Warden is explaining the benefits of winning the fight? Considering that he lists off "flogging, buggering, and leech treatments" delivered by Alice at one point, and "buggering" is a euphemism for getting fucked in the ass, it would suggest that he knows and just doesn't care.

If I knew how to implement that with any kind of eloquence, I would, but I don't, so I'm leaving it here in case someone else wants to do so.

Pyro (talk) 02:07, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Scientology Reference?

Anyone see the similarities between the guy in Don't Be A Negaton and Scientology?

No, and without citation from a reliable source, it doesn't belong in the article. ThuranX (talk) 06:00, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

It was really a combination of a bunch of cults, so if we listed Scientology we'd have to list Jim Jones, and all the other cults. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LoganTheGeshrat (talk • contribs) 20:00, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow. I just saw the episode and Scientology was the first thing that came to mind. 86.46.194.177 (talk) 18:40, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

To settle this; Scientology comes to mind because most of you weren't at the age of self-awareness at the time characters like Jim Jones pulled equally disgusting stunts relevant to their times and cultures.

195.222.108.158 (talk) 12:32, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Recurring Prisoners

Recently in the characters section Bird and Gary were removed. A number of prisoners other than Jackknife occur in more than one episode. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.102.242.198 (talk) 05:55, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but appearance isn't enough. Jackknife has been a part of the plots of multiple episodes, whether discovering an escape route in a bar, engineering an escape, being the target of the warden's scheme, kidnapping the girl central to an episode, or featuring in the opening of every episode. Other recurring characters appear in the show, but do not significantly move the plots along. This article needs to focus on what's important to the show, and repeating faces in the crowds aren't.ThuranX (talk) 06:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

and your opinion on the matter bears any significance why?--Ask a Physicist (talk) 19:33, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Because he's a Wikipedian, just like me and you, and his opinion should be taken into account when editing the page. It seems like he hasn't gotten his way in the two and a half years since he wrote that, however. --LoganTheGeshrat (talk) 21:19, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

apparently he did get his way because other recurring characters added are being routinely deleted. And no, his opinion does not matter. Wikipedia is not some free for all editable website, where everyone can post and delete what ever they want. It's an encyclopaedia and as such should be comprehensive. If someone wants to know about the character Cancer from superjail, this is where that information should be available and he is wrong to delete it. --Ask a Physicist (talk) 13:07, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I would say that the characters section for our page is as detailed as it needs to be. Wikipedia is supposed to be comprehensive, but not so comprehensive that a girl who only had a main role in one episode and appeared for a total time of one second (I'm serious) in two others should be noted. Characters sections for TV shows never cover EVERY character, only the ones that are important - The ones that someone would search the show on Wikipedia to find out about. Cancer, while her episode was a good one, is not one of these characters. It seems clear to me (someone who remembers the massive reworking of anime character pages to only include the important ones), that this is what the Wikipedia community decided on - It was people like you, me, and ThuranX who decided these rules, and if you want to change them you should take it to an admin. For now, as a Wikipedian your choice of action should just be hoping that Cancer is important in another episode - When the anime pages were changed, I wasn't happy, but now I've come to terms with the rules, and I suggest you do the same. --LoganTheGeshrat (talk) 18:55, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

We could just create a separate page i.e. 'comprehensive list of superjail characters' and link it to the side. Or would that also go against your counter productive rules? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ask a Physicist (talk • contribs) 21:37, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Creating a separate page should give you a little more wiggle room when determining whether a character belongs on the page; after all, one of the main reasons for the rule of only including important characters (which I don't believe is my rule, but rather all of Wikipedia's) is probably to keep the page from becoming too long. Entire articles devoted to the characters of a show circumvent this because that's what the article is for - Nobody's going to complain that there are too many characters on the page because that's what's supposed to be there. So go for it. Just copy and paste what we already have to start with and write about Cancer as much as you want to. --LoganTheGeshrat (talk) 05:11, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

I think the fat, balding inmate should be removed. If I'm not mistaken, he appeared in maybe three episodes, and then only very briefly. I also only remember him mentioning his penis in the pilot. tildetildetildetilde

He does only appear briefly, but he serves as a generic, expendable, comedic foil. In that sense, he is recurring. --Gyrobo (talk) 18:32, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

All of the other characters listed appear in every episode, while he doesn't. As I said above, he's only appeared a couple of times, and of those the only prominent instance was in the pilot when he was shown sharing a cell with Gary. I'd like to echo Thuranx's comment above that "This article needs to focus on what's important to the show, and repeating faces in the crowds aren't." tildetildetildetilde —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.164.72.59 (talk) 23:19, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Season 2

Somebody keeps moving Superjail! into the category saying it's confirmed for a second season. Does anyone have a source on that? Korikitsune0 (talk) 17:37, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Outside of AS mentioning it through bumps, hard to say. I've heard that Augenblick studios dropped the show and the creator was looking for a studio to pick it back up. But again, I can't provide citation so it could be pure rumor. --99.186.108.193 (talk) 19:31, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

History of The Warden

In the episode Time Police pt. II it is revealed The Warden lived with his yelling, obese father who wore a black coat and top hat and wore a plain monocle, The Warden wore purple overalls and a purple baggy hat. He has the yellow glasses and designed Superjail and Jailbot using his "Lego" pieces, which his father gets angry at because he thinks that a flying man watching over a prison is childish, as he states that "this is a place, where serious men, do serious time!" He slips on a Lego and accidentally falls out a window and hangs himself. Gerald, a black accountant says "you're the youngest Warden". The Warden said "he built Superjail because the world wasn't ready for his theories." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.161.66 (talk) 02:17, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Why do you feel it was necessary to mention that his father's accountant, Gerald, is black?!? tildetildetildetilde —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.164.72.59 (talk) 23:22, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

I think this article misses the point

Not to criticise its creator, I'm sure it makes some very factual points, but I think this article misses the point a little. Rather than being just a pandering, psychadelic bloodbath, Superjail is actually incredibly entertaining, with themes and a range of hyperbolic characters that reflect different phsyches in society. Jared for example often represents a compulsive, weak minded ego, who purports to be logical but lives in a state of perpetual anxeity and bows to the slightest temptation, food, alcohol, gambling, and violence, but whom never achieves satisfaction, always having it stripped away from him. The episodes encompass a range of socio-political themes and deal with them in an exaggerated and self-satirising manner, but you only have to scratch beneath the surface to see deeper meanings. One episode I found especially deep was when a young terminally ill girl acidentally ends up in the jail. At first you naturally suspect the inmates intentions, but it transpires all they want to do is spend time with the girl, read her stories, bask in her innocence, they decide to throw a party for her. Warden, who's own childhood was one of ruthless parochial opression, becomes jealous of the girl, at the start of the episode, you see the germs inside his body being attacked by evil black entities, perhaps suggesting the onset of a serious illness. Eventually, his inner anguish becomes so great that his "inner child", beautifully portrayed as a snarling, viscous entity, leaps out of his body to try and destroy the girl (see Eckhart Tolle's work on the "Pain Body".)leaving him as half a person. Eventually, we see the same evil entities in the girl's body, caused perhaps by the stressful environment, and her organs shutting down. She dies, and the grief, both for the characters and the person watching, is quite real I can assure you. I saw the whole episode as an extended metaphore for the potential link one's environment and emotional health could have to serious illness. Regardless of the constitution of the programme, I think this is very clever writing. The article hints at the fact the plot is convaluted, as you can see from my description, it is not linear, but personally I don't have a problem with that, in fact, I think its better. Why would you want to predict the plot every time? Is it not simply offering you something new? Something unpredictable? Maybe that's what people are afraid of. The psychadelic animation, far from being over bearing, is absolutely wonderful. You never know which part of the background or forground is going to move next, and the character animation sequences are superb. Never have we seen such elaboration since Tom and Jerry or Loony Tunes, and this is the next evolution. Some may argue the show is deplorably violent. Look around you, life, in our current stage of evolution, is deplorably violent, and most of it is inflicted on humans by other humans. More than 150 million humans murdered by other humans in the 20th century alone. All artists can do is reflect the society they live in, at least the creators of this programme did it is a cartoon format so as to parodise rather than glamorise, like the vast majority of films do today. I applaud the creators of this programme, and other animations (Boondocks, Drinky Crow Drawn Togther) for the incredible stuggle they must have had getting their art to an audience, and apologise on behalf of the human race for the constant mis-interpretation of their work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Milsbrik (talk • contribs) 09:51, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

You could always be bold and rewrite it so long as it adheres to NPOV and has no original research.--DrWho42 (talk) 07:39, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Great write-up! It almost sounds as if you are one of the motivated producers for the show. I share many of your views. There are definitely a lot of metaphors and anecdotes. I enjoy the ripping of the prison industrial complex as well. Your views are much deeper than many of the surface views that are shared on the main article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.45.31.177 (talk) 15:51, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Weird inline links

Why does the section on Jared link to the "list of Invader Zim characters" section on Dib? And why does the section on Ash link to Freddy Krueger? XK5Nkxn (talk) 19:16, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Will the article for Ballmastrz 9669 ever be created?

Is there anyone on Wikipedia that will create the article for Ballmastrz 9669? --73.6.75.134 (talk) 23:12, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

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Reception

If this show aired for four seasons, then wher is the ratings and reception section? LaundryPizza03 (talk) 02:05, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Useless "Theme song" and "Home releases" sections

Is it me or is the "Theme song" section utterly inane? The Way of the Fewture (talk) 20:50, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

As is the "Home releases" section. The Way of the Fewture (talk) 20:55, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Category:Superjail!

Someone should create the category for Superjail! here on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.6.75.134 (talk) 17:18, 30 June 2021 (UTC)