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About the article title[edit]

I think we need to change the title of the article to "Superman & Lois (TV series)". We need to label this article as the TV series to distinguish from an existing article "Superman and Lois Lane", which is about the couple's relationship over the years. The two titles are too similar, people looking for the TV show can easily be misdirected to the other article. I guess we don't have to change the name right now we can wait till the page is ready to be moved as a live Wikipedia article? Rootone (talk) 18:07, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rootone Seeing as you've already attempted to move this to this namespace, I felt I'd comment. No I don't think the disambiguation is needed because it is not "Superman and Lois". Not having "Lane" in the title is enough of a difference (along with the ampersand) that the dab isn't needed. Hatnotes can be used instead. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:22, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I put a link to the article in the redirect page. Even though, as per Favre1fan93, yes it’s not the same title, neither is Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman. Hopefully, this should solve any problem of people getting these articles confused. Advofspec (talk) 16:14, 7 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not Part of the Arrowverse[edit]

This sentence is incorrect: "The series is set in the Arrowverse, sharing continuity with the other television series of the franchise."

Recent episodes have made it clear that Clark grew up without any family from Krypton, meaning Supergirl hasn't happened in his reality. In addition, Morgan Edge was a character on Supergirl, and the two versions of Edge do not in any way match up. Also, Lois no longer has a sister named Lucy. Clearly, this must be a different universe, despite what some might think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.162.105 (talk) 01:58, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You would need to cite a reliable source that says anything like that.

Also, and straying into forum territory here, Supergirl's premise is that Superman met Kara when he was already established as Superman. Secondly, we live in a world where Peyton List played Lucy Lane and Peyton R List voiced Batgirl...so, that's not much of an argument there either.... And where in the episode does it say that Lois doesn't have a sister? As a matter of fact, where in Supergirl does it mention that Lois has a sister?

This all goes to show that it's original research/interpretation. Again, you would need cite a reliable source that says any of this before it'll be addressed in the article proper. DonQuixote (talk) 02:10, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Any changes can be chalked up to the Crisis.... but FYI... Lois's sister Lucy was a prominent figure in season 1 of Supergirl. Spanneraol (talk) 03:19, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hahaha! Forgot that. Thanks for reminding me. DonQuixote (talk) 03:25, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there is a source that General Lane was recasted for the same role. And also, there is a pre-covid source about Superman and Lois vs. Batwoman expected crossover. IKhitron (talk) 10:30, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Plus Diggle will be on the show soon, there was a brief shot of him in the previews of upcoming episodes. Spanneraol (talk) 12:51, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure, but I don’t think that the Natalie character should link to the comic book Natalie, unless that is specifically stated. But I am not clear, as mentioned above, whether there should be a separate article for the TV series. This is all very confusing. Articles for other shows don’t do that, since TV shows don’t always follow the same plots as comic books. — unsigned comment

According to the second season's finale, this series isn't set on the Arrowverse's Earth-Prime after all. Although vague, the implication seems to be that S&L is set on an alternate Earth, similar to how Stargirl or Titans are. I imagine this'll have a lot of impacts on this page and many other Arrowverse-related pages, so I just want to discuss a plan of action for those before making any big moves. In addition, as I've been writing the episode summaries, I've been referring to the main Earth as Earth-Prime and I'm not sure what to replace it with yet. Actinion (talk) 06:49, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Use these sources to settle it all: [1], [2] and [3]. Kailash29792 (talk) 08:31, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. Thank you! Actinion (talk) 16:00, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If this fact is officially confirmed within the third season, this will contradict everything that had occurred during the Crisis on Infinite Earths and the canon comic miniseries Earth-Prime. Right? Rtkat3 (talk) 23:19, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nope... S&L only had one chapter of the miniseries, and nothing in it specified what earth they were on... and the characters in crisis were just separate ones from these versions of the characters. Spanneraol (talk) 23:48, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That was one issue of Earth-Prime. Have you seen the flashforward version of Superman in the final issue? You might want to brush up on that appearance. Rtkat3 (talk) 21:34, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Arrowverse still has its own Superman on Earth-Prime. That one is the one that appeared in Supergirl, Elseworlds, Crisis, and the final issue of Earth-Prime. Our Superman (the S&L one) hasn't gotten through any of those events.

The S&L-centric issue could go either way because it doesn't reference the rest of the Arrowverse and is thus canon-compliant. We'll probably get an answer from Todd Helbing sooner or later. Actinion (talk) 23:15, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

'Guest' cast section is out of control[edit]

The 'Guest' cast section at this article is completely out of control – the list should be restricted to notable guest cast only, which should probably only be those actors with standalone articles like Wendy Crewson (and maybe also guest characters that are important figures from the comics). Completely trivial entries (which seems to be most of them!) like "Pavel Romano as Corey Wellnitz: A student at Smallville High School." should be removed, posthaste. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:49, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, the Guest cast section should be cut down to Notable guests only with a second season coming the guest stars list will be excessively longer than it needs to be. — YoungForever^(talk) 15:01, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

NOT a co-production with HBO Max[edit]

So, according to his article, Superman and Lois is not a co-production with The CW and HBO Max. What should we do about this? Leader Vladimir (talk) 16:01, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ratings[edit]

Hey, can someone help me fill out the Ratings graph for Season 2? Advofspec (talk) 16:28, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DC Studios as producer[edit]

I can't find any source for DC Studios being a producer on the show. At best the editors have cited the article from James Gunn and Peter Safran that they expect the show to continue for one or two seasons on DC Studios page.

I fail to understand how does an expectation by someone equate to being involved in production though. I know DC Studios now has the right to take decisions on every DC media, but that doesn't mean production involvement. For example Flash season 9 doesn't have DC Studios listed. Linkin Prankster (talk) 09:10, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]