Talk:Surfing in India

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My contribution to this article has been deleted - ?

My text materials are entirely factual and I have supplied references which confirm the facts - also deleted - ?

Of course I have an interest in this text being added to the article - I'm very annoyed by Indians and other persons making claims to what I have done - while I receive no credit at all.

If you want Wikipedia to be factual then restore my contribution to this article immediately - who would know better than myself what I have done??

Am I supposed to wait around for someone else to do it while Indians and others take credit for my accomplishments? I don't think so.

One of the first major surfing projects in India was researched and produced for Surfer Magazine in the US by photographer John Seaton Callahan. On a visit to Phuket Island in Thailand in 1997, Callahan noticed several live-aboard dive charter companies advertising dive charter voyages from Phuket to the Andaman Islands in India. He did the research and determined which companies were legitimate and which had never actually been to the Andamans. After a long period of research, planning and fund raising, a boat was chartered and provisioned and a crew of surfers, filmmakers and photographers left Phuket in late March 1998 to make the 72 hour crossing of the Andaman Sea to the Andaman Islands. +	 	+	After clearing the immigration and customs formalities in Port Blair, the crew which included Callahan, Surfer Editor Sam George, surfers Chris Malloy, Hans Hagen, Josh Bradbury and Tamayo Perry and cameraman Jack Johnson went south to Little Andaman Island, which Callahan had determined had the best potential for new waves that had never been ridden by surfers. They had perfect conditions for more than week with light seasonal northeast or northwest winds and abundant southwest swell from early season storm activity in the southern hemisphere, which sent several groundswell pulses north to the Andaman Islands. +	 	+	Many new waves were named and ridden for the first time on this trip including Jarawa Point on the east side of Little Andaman, Kumari Point in the southwest and Muddy's Reef on the west coast. Film segments from the trip were used in the feature film "Thicker than Water" and cameraman Jack Johnson wrote several songs on acoustic guitar on the trip that were later recorded for his first bestselling album "Brushfire Fairytales". +	 	+	Callahan went on to pioneer many other surfing locations in India, notably in Andhra Pradesh where he led a group including Antony Colas from the World Stormrider Guide and surf traveller extraordinaire Randy Rarick to be the first surfers on the right point waves and beach breaks north of Vizag in the Bay of Bengal and again in 2010 when Callahan and the surfEXPLORE group pioneered the waves of Diu Island on the Arabian Sea.

Thank You

JohnSeatonCallahan (talk) 02:40, 12 March 2017 (UTC)JohnSeatonCallahan

If I don't insert this content - no one else will.

Nothing wrong with it - it is certainly true and written from a neutral perspective, etc etc

Having read numerous article on Surfing in India that were blatantly copied from the existing content on Wikipedia, if these lazy journalists are going to copy their content from Wikipedia instead of doing any actual work, they should copy the facts - not a misinformed and incomplete version of events.

"The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds material, and is satisfied by providing a citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution".

Here's the Burden of Proof - well satisfied with references. Good enough?

Am I a fraud or a fake?

I don't think so - there is not a single word on any of these published projects in the Wikipedia on "Surfing in India" - there should be.

More reference links are available to support the inclusion of the text I wrote for the "Surfing in India" article, this is not a complete listing.

Good enough for Wikipedia?

JohnSeatonCallahan (talk) 02:48, 13 March 2017 (UTC)johnseatoncallahan


 * No, it's WP:UNDUE weight, and not written in the formal tone expected from an encyclopedia. If you want to reduce it to a single short paragraph, and propose that instead, it would probably be considered more favorably. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:44, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Copyediting June 2021
The article was marked for copyediting. I have deleted chunks of text from the page as they were completely promotional and directed towards promoting one particular company that I have mentioned in the edit summaries. I wanted to share a quick note here in case anyone wants to review. Thanks, Csgir (talk) 05:50, 24 June 2021 (UTC)