Talk:Surp Agop Hospital

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 * Its a nice hospital. I believe one of the very few Christian hospitals in the middle east. I think that is something we can research and add to both this article and Yedikule_Surp_Pırgiç_Armenian_Hospital.Proudbolsahye (talk) 08:27, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It is not a "Christian" hospital nor is in the Middle East. It is a "private" hospital in Turkey, serving to all the public. It is the Sosyal Güvenlik Kurumu (Social Security Agency) of the secular Republic of Turkey that pays much of the treatment expenses of the patients: I may reassure you that the patients of the hospital reflect more or less the religious structure of Turkey, i.e. around 98 % muslim. --E4024 (talk) 10:25, 21 December 2012 (UTC)


 * The hospital was founded by Christians, built by Christians, runned by Christians, and owned by the Catholic church (near Taksim square not far from the French embassy). It may be under the Social Guvenlik Kurumu but that in no way denotes ownership. Also there is not transborder nationalism involved. The hospital calls itself Armenian for a reason. This does not mean that it is directly tied with the current republic of Armenia but that the decendents of its founders, funders, owners, and functioners are indeed from Armenia at one point in history.Proudbolsahye (talk) 10:40, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Armenian American Wellness Center is in Armenia and is a Wproject Armenia; whereas Hairenik Association is in the USA, run by Armenians and is a Wproject USA. If you think because there are less nationalist Turkish wikipedians here than Armenian nationalists like yourself you will be allowed to impose a different standard on articles on Turkey you are very wrong. BTW this is your response to my good-willed endevour to develop articles on Turkish Armenians. What a shame... --E4024 (talk) 11:12, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * As the Wikiproject Armenia description indicates, "articles pertaining to Armenia and Armenians" belong to the project. Therefore, this article is compatible with the guidelines of the Wproject. Proudbolsahye (talk) 11:21, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Transborder nationalism
Certain users (see above) are trying to push their nationalist POV on articles regarding Turkish institutions. I request kindly all the neutral and objective Wikipedians to help stop this attitude that is disrupting WP. (Please see above) --E4024 (talk) 11:12, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
 * This isn't disrupting en.wp, in this case you are. I know barely nothing about Armenian in Turkey issues but your editing is clearly POV as well as having the various characteristics of previous blocks. Please tone it down - and note the dozens of WP Germany articles which have secondary WP Turkey tags as per Talk:Turks in Germany In ictu oculi (talk) 00:23, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

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