Talk:Suzano massacre

Requested move 13 March 2019

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Kingsif (talk) 22:12, 15 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Suzano massacre Pros: common name in Brazil, follows formulation for impactful school shootings (Columbine massacre, Dunblane massacre) and the formulation for mass shootings in South America (where 'massacre' is a more common term than 'shooting') Cons: apparently not neutral? despite being common?
 * Professor Raul Brasil State School shooting Pros: school name + "school shooting" is a formulation used a lot for school shootings in the US, where they have a lot. Cons: school name is a mouthful, seems technical in English (standard for school names in Brazil), not really mentioned in the news (probably because of those)
 * Suzano school shooting Pros: common name in English media, follows the standard of Rio de Janeiro school shooting, is indicative to everyone. Cons: ???
 * 2019 Brazil school shooting Pros: non-offensive, indicative title. Cons: Brazil is a big country and Suzano is already a fairly large city, doesn't follow any established standard for school shooting article titles.
 * Kingsif (talk) 21:17, 13 March 2019 (UTC)


 * For me, the better ones are Professor Raul Brasil State School shooting and  Suzano school shooting . 2019 Brazil school shooting is kind of ridiculous (no offense). Brazil is too big and 2019 just started. I don`t think it`s a good name. Suzano massacre (the name used in en.wiki) is good, but by using the word "massacre" we are inferring some kind of opinion. Who told this was a massacre? Who are us to call it a massacre? Professor Raul Brasil State School shooting is a very specific name for en.wiki, but it may work. Suzano school shooting  seems the better one.--SirEdimon (talk) 21:25, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Move to Suzano school shooting I agree with every point made above. I have converted this to a move discussion.--- Coffee  and crumbs  22:02, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Seems to be non-controversial. Will move and update redirects if no objections soon. Kingsif (talk) 23:17, 13 March 2019 (UTC)


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Removal of material
An IP whose other edits are about cartoons (can't remember the IP, but that's the context you'd get from clicking on their contribs) removed this:

"President Jair Bolsonaro had recently made it easier for citizens without a criminal record to buy guns."

Now I can see how it might not seem relevant, but it's important contextual information and, oh, mentioned in the BBC article about the shooting; it's not just some random fact. Should it be restored Kingsif (talk) 21:26, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The point is that the shooting has nothing to do with the law. It's an attempt to use this tragedy to make politics.--SirEdimon (talk) 22:39, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Agree with SirEdimon. It is not relevant at all unless it is established that the perpetrators were only able to acquire guns specifically because of this new policy. It is a random fact, relevance is spurious. Venqax (talk) 02:17, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Requesting move
Change the name of the article to “Suzano school massacre”, as only one firearm was used during the attack. Bows, knives, and hatchets were also used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morbidlycuriousjohn (talk • contribs) 03:03, 10 March 2022 (UTC)