Talk:Swan upping

(The) Swan with Two Nicks
Not all such pubs have had their name corrupted to "...Necks". There's a "Swan With Two Nicks" (no "the") in Worcester, for example. 86.136.255.33 00:47, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Page title
What's with the capital U in the page title? The OED has "swan-upping" (see http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/swanupping?view=uk), so this should be the page title (and the page contents should follow suit). [A search in onelook.com] confirms this, and shows Wikipedia to be the only listed online reference work that thinks differently. &mdash; Paul G (talk) 16:00, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The official website of the British Monarchy spells it Swan Upping Rakerman (talk) 02:19, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Apocryphal history
This could do with some more research. The 12th-century claim is rather unsubstantiated. The 1482 charter exists, but all it does is complaining that everyone is marking swans illegally, and therefore restricting the right to mark swans to rich land-owners. Swans marked by others are to be seized, and half of the swans so seized are to be given to the king. That's it, no claim concerning "all unmarked swans on open waters" or similar, and no Vintners or Dyers. I assume more information could be found in Ticehurst (1957), but it's only available via snipped view on google books. In any case the internet is full of false information on this, which is aimlessly copy-pasted around. I am sure the BBC News got the "900-years history" from Wikipedia, and we are now using that as a source for Wikipedia. This is why we cannot use journalism for references: journalists have learned to google, but they do not care to get it right, they just take whatever sounds good to them and move on. --dab (𒁳) 08:17, 28 April 2014 (UTC)