Talk:Sweden in the Eurovision Song Contest 2009

Splitting this page out
I am really concerned about the fact that the Melodifestivalen 2009 and Sweden in the Eurovision Song Contest 2009 pages have been merged. I understand fully why this was done, presumably in order to ensure uniformity amongst "x in the Eurovision Song Contest xxxx" pages. I agree that for most countries it would be appropriate, but I feel quite strongly that for Melodifestivalen it's inappropriate.

Put simply, Melodifestivalen is bigger in Sweden than Eurovision is. There's a reason why it's called "The Melody Festival". It attracts a larger audience (the largest TV audience in Sweden every year - i.e. it probably outstrips comfortably most X Factor/Pop Idol type shows), and unlike most other countries it is (I believe) watched by quite a lot of people with no real interest in Eurovision. Melodifestivalen entries literally dominate the Swedish singles chart for weeks. Winning Melodifestivalen has its own prestige and status amongst the Swedish public, unconnected with the fact that the winner subsequently goes to Eurovision. Increasingly a number of the entrants are entering Melodifestivalen purely for the domestic exposure, with the aim of reaching the final but with the possibility of actually going to Eurovision being an afterthought at best.

I feel that subsuming Melodifestivalen into "Sweden in the Eurovision Song Contest" fails to reflect any of this and should therefore be reversed. I think this is much more important than enforcing a misleading uniformity between Melodifestivalen and other national selection procedures which, unlike Melodifestivalen, are often basically non-notable in themselves and aren't widely considered to have much intrinsic interest other than as the means to the end of picking the Eurovision entrant. Cmch83 (talk) 10:51, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Juries rant
I feel that the rant about juries is inherently OR and should be out. For now, I have removed contentious wording and replaced with something hopefully more neutral, but it still strikes me as OR. I also think that Melodifestivalen xxxx and Sweden in the Eurovision Song Contest xxxx should not be merged. --Dzordzm (talk) 18:04, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

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