Talk:Tanager

Lifespan
How long does a paradise tanager live?

Picture
Is there a better picture to replace the first one. The background colors make it hard to see the bird. Also, it has a copyright (share a like) notice on it. Rocket000 20:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Yellow-bridled finch
The article on the Yellow-bridled Finch places the genus Melanodera in the family Emberizidae, and this article and the Melanodera article put it in Thraupidae. Also, the Emberizidae article does not include Melanodera. I've emailed a friend of mine who is an ornithologist to see what he thinks, but I wonder if there is anyone else who knows about this. Cadwaladr (talk) 19:28, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The numerous recent changes have not been completely implemented at the species level. The family articles are up to date, while many species articles were auto-generated from the IUCN redlist which is obsolete in the Passeroidea and Sylvioidea. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 08:58, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Family?
According to NCBI and The Taxonomicon, the Tanager form a tribe (not a family). ירון (talk) 11:50, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Never trust an automated databases you didn't screw up yourself ;-) In this case, they use the Sibley definition of "Emberizidae" which (IIRC) unites all nine-primaried oscines. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 08:57, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, they don't comprise the Thraupidae family. they belong to it.   FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 15:18, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Duplicate listing
I noticed that Thraupis and Pipraeidea are each listed twice; first under "a) Tropical canopy tanagers:" then again under "d) Typical tanagers:". I have no idea which placement is correct. SchreiberBike &#124; ⌨  01:18, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Redirect to taxon pages?
IMO most of the content of pages such as this probably should be at pages for taxa, not for a vernacular name. IMO the page for Tanager should principally be historical, with redirects to the taxon pages. A gallery of images of tanagers from each of the families might be a good way to illustrate the visual similarity that led this large group to share a common name. The species familiar to the Tupis and the Portuguese in Brazil as well as the species first described would provide an anchor for understanding the unifying elements for the vernacular concept. DCDuring (talk) 12:26, 18 September 2016 (UTC)