Talk:Tatum O'Neal

Youngest person to receive Oscar?
No mention of Shirley Temple;


 * Tatum O'Neal is the youngest to ever win a competitive Oscar, winning Best Supporting Actress for Paper Moon when she was 11. Shirley Temple, however, received an honorary Oscar when she was just 6 years old.


 * Correct. The distinction is between winning a competitive award (which O'Neal did) versus an honorary award (which Temple did).  Tatum O'Neal was age 10 (not 11), however, when she won the Oscar.  For more details, see this article: List of oldest and youngest Academy Award winners and nominees.  Thanks.   (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:46, 18 January 2009 (UTC))


 * The "distinction" is the very reason why the text is inaccurate. If the statement were "youngest person ever to win a competitive Oscar", then the article would be correct—but that's not what it says.  Words matter.  The text should be fixed. Dallas97338 (talk) 16:12, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
 * If you say "The text should be fixed," then fix it yourself. Be Bold. KJRehberg (talk) 04:04, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Alleged relationship with Michael Jackson?
I found this profile of Tatum O'Neal in the so-called Notable Names Database which alleges that she had a relationship with Michael Jackson in the 70's. Is this true? Is there any reliable media coverage confirming this? --Lemi4 10:34, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Michael wrote in his autobiography "Moonwalk", that they used to date. IMDB states, that this happened in the 70s, and that's the time frame suggested in "Moonwalk" too. According to IMDB, Tatum even claimed the 1979 song "She's out of my life" was about her, which however can't be true, since the song wasn't written by Michael. The funny thing is that Michael is five years older than Tatum. At no point in the 70s she was she older than sixteen, and thus a minor. This can only mean, at best, that Michael dated a fifteen-year-old girl, when he was twenty years old. Or that he was like 18 and she was like 13, when they dated? Hmmm... Was this considered apppropriate thirty years ago? I know it wouldn't be considered appropriate now for a girl under the age of sixteen to have a five years older boyfriend. I wouldn't mind it too much, but what was the general opinion of this at the time? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.64.115.76 (talk • contribs)

They did date. http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/7920/tatum6tr3.jpg Tatum also talks about that in her autobiography and Michael too talked about their relationship although their accounts are conflicting about who was more pushy. Tatum says he, Michael says she. Extract from Tatum's book:

''"I met him (MJ) at the On the Rox, the club Lou Adler & Jack Nicholson opened upstairs from the Roxy on the Sunset Strip. Michael was around 17 at the time, about 5 years older than me, & he seemed very sheltered & fearful & lonely--not at all what you'd expect a world-renowned performer to be. As I recall, he didn't even know how to drive a car." "He gave me his number, & we started talking everyday--long drawn-out conversations that sometimes got so boring I would hand over the receiver to my friend Esme Gray. Michael would just keep on, thinking he was talking to me. His usual subject was sex. At 12 I didn't have much to say about sex--all I knew was that it went on, pretty steadily, in my father's room next to mine. But Michael was intensely curious about anything, everything sexual, though in an incredibly sweet & innocent way. "He was a huge star, but it seemed he barely even dated & knew little about life. He once came to my house & asked to come upstairs b/c he'd never been in a girl's bedroom before. He sat on the bed, & we kissed very briefly, but it was terribly awkward. For all my passionate crushes on people like Dustin Hoffman, I was just 12 & not at all ready for a real-life encounter. So I said, 'I can't.' Michael, who was sweating profusely, seemed as intimidated as I was. He jumped up nervously & said, 'Uh, gotta go.' That's the closest I ever got to Michael, which is why I'm amazed by his recent claim on national TV that I'd seduced him but he was too shy to carry it through. I absolutely adored Michael--as a friend--& I admire him to this day. I believe that he fell in love w/ me. I'm told that he wrote the song "She's Out of My Life" on his album Off the Wall for me. What an honor. At the time of the supposed seduction, I was barely pubescent, & what I'd seen of sex so far was unappealling & gross. It may have been Michael's fantasy that I'd seduce him--and it's a little sad that he cast himself as failing, even in his dream--but it just didn't happen. "What we did do together was go to concerts. I remember seeing Queen w/ Michael at the Forum in L.A., which is interesting, considering his androgyny now. He came w/ me & my father to Hugh Hefner's mansion, where I think Hefner's menagerie--monkeys & peacocks & other exotic birds-gave him the idea for Neverland. Michael would hang out & jam sometimes w/ my brother Griffin...Griffin was like a musical savant; he played the piano, guitar, & drums beautifully. Michael would play drums, & outside on the deck, my father would be boxing to the rhythm. "Unfortunately, my friendship w/ Michael came to an abrupt ending. He'd played the Scarecrow in The Wiz, the urban remake of the Wizard of Oz, which starred Diana Ross as Dorothy. For the film's premiere, Michael invited me to be his date. I asked my dad, who didn't care one way or another if I went, but my talent agency was dead set against it. I was told, in exactly these words: 'You can't go to a premiere with a ni**er.' Hollywood! That upset me tremendously. Had I been old enough--or had I the parental support--I could have stood my ground & insisted 'Oh yes, I can.' But my father was too disengaged to help me think it through. So, without telling Michael the reason, I turned him down. He was devastated. After that Michael didn't speak to me for years, until I ran into him at the Helmsley Palace in New York. For old times' sake, we caught a concert together, Kool and the Gang at Madison Square Garden. Michael dressed in full costume for the event--coming in blackface, w/ a pasted-on beard--the whole nine yards. But things were never the same between us."''

Michael however says in his autobiography that he wasn't ready for some of the things Tatum wanted.

As for it beeing inappropriate. Well, considering what Tatum wrote in her autobiography about having orgies at the age of 13, I'm not sure if Tatum was the more innocent one of the two at the time. 94.21.22.175 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:16, 25 July 2009 (UTC).

bad
this article reads like it was written by a fifth-grader. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.111.120 (talk) 13:42, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


 * This statement reads like it was written by a person in a hurry.

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Coffee5binky (talk) 19:10, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


 * It was written two years ago, what possible difference does it make and why do we need to know this when it can be accessed by anyone interested? Wildhartlivie (talk) 20:32, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I am just impresssed that she was smart enough to get past a very unconfortable situation Must have been a very smart young ladie CoodoS to you Tatum  loved all your work hated to see Rescue Me  go by by... take care — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.163.224.225 (talk) 23:18, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Drugged While Writing
She's made a whole career about touting her "survival story." Did she write her book while she was stoned and, if so, can we get a source for this? Gingermint (talk) 02:41, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Age at the time of the Oscar?
The lead says that she was 10, but later in the article, it says she was 9 when she won. Could someone please verify which of these is correct and fix the article? Thanks. Phiwum (talk) 02:40, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * She was definitely 10 years old ... to be exact, 10 years and 148 days old. All of the details are in this article: List of oldest and youngest Academy Award winners and nominees ... as well as on the Academy Awards web site at oscars.org.  I will correct the error in this article.  Thanks.   (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 22:52, 7 June 2009 (UTC))

Tatum's Name
I love Tatum's name. Does anyone know how Tatum's parents came up with it?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erinsmomtoo (talk • contribs) 21:30, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * According to imdb: According to her autobiography "A Paper Life", she was not named after her paternal grandmother as was widely rumored for years but actually named after jazz pianist Art Tatum. Rnb (talk) 21:55, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Sequence
You say 'Following the divorce, O'Neal's drug problems re-emerged...' No mention has been made of drugs up to this point in the article. Valetude (talk) 22:40, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

From section: Family and relationships
From article:

O'Neal's relationship with tennis player John McEnroe began in 1984 when she moved into his Central Park West condominium in New York City.

One would hope the relationship started before she moved in with him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:8BD5:3CF0:8D2C:D35:D8D1:4030 (talk) 05:21, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

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Paper Moon...a never movie to forget
It's a pleasure for myself to remember this movie when I was six years old. I've enjoyed the memories of this performance for a few decades. And today I inspired my 10 and 12 year old kids to watch this with me. We loved it from beginning to end. The only problem was the popcorn I made. And at some times during the movie I needed more Kleenex... for myself, at least! God bless and Tatum with Ryan O'Neill for this much time together for all of us to experience is a gift. I love it. And if Ryan wants to wrestle with me I'll need a spotter! Chefboyardan (talk) 09:35, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

What does this have to do with the article? 2600:8801:E00:5300:4C47:FD8:70EC:4EE8 (talk) 08:45, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Twitter
Her Twitter account was banned HardeeHar (talk) 09:14, 2 September 2021 (UTC)