Talk:Teddy Atlas

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"Tyson had molested his little sister" is this his opinion or is this documented fact (e.g. legal procedings, an admission by Tyson, etc.)? Can you provide a reference for your writeup in general? Thanks. Wolfman 17:04, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Reference is Fox Sports Net Behind the Glory profile of Mike Tyson


 * I have heard about the incident several times before..now whether Tyson actally molested his little sister or not, thats another thing. Antonio Little Girls are Not to be played with!! Martin

I took out the reference to that incident for now, as finding hard evidence that it happened is difficult, and I wanted to remove the NPOV tag. Grackle 18:21, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

In the Beyond the Glory Documentary on Tyson, Atlas says that a member of his wife's family who was under age was with Tyson and Tyson made sexual advances towards her, he didn't molest her per se. Tyson said that he "touched her butt." 4/25/06

Can we get something on the threat that Atlas supposedly made? I haven't found anything on it. Anyone else? 12/16/11 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.224.229.7 (talk) 19:44, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Charitable Works
I think it's iportant to note that Teddy also created the Teddy Atlas Foundation, in memeory of his late father, Dr. Teddy Atlas.

Had one fight?
"Atlas had one amateur fight as a youth but quit due to his scoliosis"

What the hell is this guy talking about? Atlas was a Golden Gloves winner.

You don't end up looking like this after one amateur fight:

http://www.dratlasfoundation.com/images/teddybiopic.jpg

Fixed.

Atlas was not a New York City Golden Gloves Champ, he never even entered New York City Gloves. He had one fight only. His recent friends claim he won a Golden Gloves trophey in Upstate New York, but he never says so himself. Kevin Rooney, who worked with D'Amato much more than Atlas, was New York City Gloves champ.

He won the Adirondack Golden Gloves title according to this. user:71.255.56.243 obviously has a grudge against Atlas and keeps editing the article to show him in a worse light.

Atlas never had the amateur carreer he claims. If you choose to believe his friend, Jack Newfiield, who had Atlas himself as a source!! Well, go ahead. All the legend of Atlas --from ESPN documentary, to anything else using him as source, is ridiculous. He also never won Golden Gloves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.200.247 (talk) 03:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

So apart from what you say its all lies!! They're all lying about Atlas to put him in a better light. Do you think the lizard people may be involved in this sinister cover up ? lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.177.3 (talk) 21:01, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Any boxing person knows Atlas was never any sort of amateur star, as does Atlas himself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.222.5 (talk) 02:22, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Atlas was never a amateur star thats correct, but he did by all reports i can find win the 1976 Adirondack Golden Gloves Light Welterweight Championship....the current writer says that he had "9 fights, most of which he lost..." the link that is used as a sitation says nothing about fights Atlas may or may not have had. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.164.83.181 (talk) 02:39, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Protection
Something needs to be done about this page. A user with several 71.XXX.XXX.XXX IP addresses keeps adding false information about Teddy Atlas to show him in a worse light. I shall request protection and action to be take against this user.

Atlas has given several versions of stories about himself over the years, including one regarding pulling gun on Tyson, and firing off round against the teenager's head. The girl in alleged incident was in school with Tyson, not several years younger.

Atlas always said he put gun to Tyson's head over disipline problems, like not listening to him in gym, and fights with other teens in D'Amato's care. Atlas changed story to incident with girl after he became more high profile.

Article by Jack Newfield is biased, Newfield was very close friend of Atlas when article was written. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.106.226 (talk) 05:13, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

The story about the gun incident and the girl was mentioned in beyond the glory which featured Tyson and Atlas. Your biased too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.232.211 (talk) 14:27, 27 December 2007 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.211.218 (talk)

Atlas was gone from Cus D'Amato's training camp by time Tyson was 15, he was not around when Mike was 16. Anyone in media, or not in media, is either misinformed, or lying. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.206.62 (talk) 04:40, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

and maybe you're misinformed or lying. it's clear you have a grudge against Atlas. You're the one who keeps changing the story. You don't seem to know whether he had 1 amatuer fight or a few. the Atlas story was covered on beyond the glory which featured Tyson and Atlas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.234.66 (talk) 15:58, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

No, I am very well informed. You keep taking out whole paragrphs of things on site that portray Atlas bad side, and Atlas was, without any question, out when Tyson was 15. Atlas did hang out with gravano, which you for some reason keep delating, he did say in his book that he planned to murder La Londe, which you keep delating, and he did attend trial of drug dealing gangster, which you keep delating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.255.59.91 (talk) 04:43, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

How do you know? Nothing you've added has a source. You're trying to undermine his amateur career despite not even knowing if he had one fight or a few fights. You keep trying to add your own opinion of him as a trainer into the article, Your claim that Atlas changed the story about the girl years later is your own opinion and several sources state differently. Your obviously some1 who doesnt like Atlas and wants to show him in the worst light possible. Also see Biographies of living persons for why all negative material about a living person should by removed immediately and without discussion if it is not reliably sourced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.210.163 (talk) 00:45, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Atlas said he wanted and planned to murder La Londe in his book. Not a good enough source? Every account but two you mention, and every person in New York who folowwed boxing in 80's knows Atlas was out when Tyson was 15, and that Atlas himself told people it was over disipline problems, and that Atlas changed story in later rears.

Atlas hanging out with Gravano was widly reported, and his showing up at trial of drug dealer/murderer Anthony Spero was reported in papers--but you don't want that on site, so you erase it. No problem, I will continue to put it up. Have fun. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.116.99 (talk) 02:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

You're deleting details about his amateur career for no reason. You keep adding your own opinion of him. and you still haven't provided a single source. Meaningless statements like "widly reported" and "every person in New York" does not count. I will continue to remove your vandalism and if you continue to violate wikipedias Biographies of living persons the page will be locked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.71.66 (talk) 19:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

In his book, Atlas tells of planning to murder Donny La Londe over something as petty as being fired by La Londe. Atlas portrays self as a man, and tough, but he needed a gun and a friend, according to his own book. He also, at age 26, needed a gun to confront a 15 year old Mike Tyson.

atlas said he was trying to scare tyson after d'amato continually overlooked tyson's indiscretions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.125.161 (talk) 03:32, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Everything you'er adding is without a source and your own opinion. Sources say he did have an amateur career. only you say he didn't. The incident with tyson and the girl is sourced., only you say its a lie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.125.161 (talk) 03:35, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

And the source??? Teddy Atlas! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.222.5 (talk) 03:41, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

and what's your source??? nothing!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.125.161 (talk) 03:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

No, my source is folowing this since 1970's.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.222.5 (talk) 04:15, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Go and tell that to the wiki editors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.236.227 (talk) 11:56, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Atlas not only won a Golden Gloves title at 139 lbs., he knocked out every opponent he faced. http://www.maxboxing.com/News/scotto111903.asp You can look it up in the Golden Glove archives, too. Guess "everyone in New York" isn't a reliable source, after all... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.74.132.41 (talk) 02:28, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Atlas never even entered the New York City Golden Gloves. He did take part in a small upstate new York tournement, which is NOT the Golden Gloves. There is no record of Atlas knocking everyone out, exept himself telling that to reporters who don't check facts.

Atlas ha sgiven several versions to media regarding scar, also gave several versions of why he put gun to Tyson's head and fired off that bullet. Atlas was 26 year old man, Tyson was 15 year old teen. Some tough guy! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.119.149 (talk) 04:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Trivia section
I know it's something of a platitude now, but Wikipedia frowns upon "Trivia" sections and this one is just embarrassing. I'd remove it if I were meaner. SirGrotius 15:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

put a gun to tyson's head
didnt he threaten tyson after tyson allegedly made a sexual advance against atlas's 12 year old sister? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.45.61.254 (talk) 02:43, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

In different stories given by Atlas, it was: His sister in law, his cousin, his cousin in law. Atlas always says girl was much younger than Tyson. Problem with that, incident took place outside class in a school where the two teens (Tyson and girl) were classmates, making tham same age, or close. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.119.149 (talk) 04:34, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

In beyond the glory it was his niece. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.239.148 (talk) 15:25, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

i know for a fact i saw an interview where Atlas admits to putting a gun to Tyson's head. i will search for a link. 72.45.61.254 (talk) 03:37, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

User:71
The user with the IP address starting 71.... has a personal grudge against Atlas & keeps changing the page to show him in the worst light. His grammar is also terrible! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.176.101 (talk) 13:01, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Atlas had relationships with Sammy Gravano, up until time gravano turne dinformer. Also aother mobsters. A user keeps erasing this info, and other info, in order to cover for Atlas.

Atlas has been fired by: Tyrone Trice (after 3 days) Simon Brown (after 2 fights)  Donny La Londe, and many others. That keeps getting erased also.

Atlas predicted Mike Tyson would lose to Michael Spinks, and just about everyone he faced. Atlas claimed after Holyfield disqualification that he predicted it---but he did so afterwards, so how is that a prediction? A user keeps erasing that. So it's here, where it can't be erased ( I hope) and can be read. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.255.53.88 (talk) 18:04, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Atlas predicted Tyson would disqualify himself. It was Ron Borges who recounted the story and if you read the source you'd know that.

None of the users claims are referenced & are highly dubious. They should be kept out of the article until a source is provided.

User also keeps deleting information about Atlas's amateur career. (reference also provided) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.125.137 (talk) 04:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Atlas did not win New York Golden gloves, an incorrect source is not a source worth using. Ron Borges is a friend of Atlas, and also had a brawl with Atlas's former amateur featerweight Ricky Salazar, as did Atlas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.115.86 (talk) 15:54, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Roughly translated, a source which disagrees with your negative view of Atlas is not worth using. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.154.88 (talk) 19:19, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I have a negetive view of him, and reasons are obvious. But that does not make the fact that he never entered NYC Golden Gloves an opinion. Go to the New York Daily News archives, or NY Times, and look at golden gloves finals for years Atlas claims he won--unlesss he was named Hernandez, he was not in finals. Look at earlier bouts in tourney, in daily news---no Teddy Atlas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.198.14 (talk) 19:45, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

If you have a negative view of him you shouldn`t be editing his article. None of your claims are referenced & mine are. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.154.88 (talk) 21:11, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Claims is key word. Anyone who wants to bother can: Check Golden Glove results for year Atlas lies about being in them. Check New York Post story archive for Anthony Spiro trail, check boxrec.com to see who managed Elvir Murqi (Tori Locacio)       You do it, thene admit you were wrong about Atlas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.107.149 (talk) 02:04, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Go find a source which backs up your claims about Atlas then you can put it in. If you can't then it stays out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.233.95 (talk) 12:27, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

I gave you---and anyone reading this--your source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.127.103 (talk) 23:28, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

You didn't give any source! You told me to go look for myself.If you have one go find it & add it to the article.

You--go to New York Times archives, look up golden glove results from year you think he won. Find the article in playboy from a few months ago, and read it. Check people magazine for article on d'amato right after he died, where Atlas said he was homo. Do your homework, I did mine. I think it's January or February issue of this year. Funny thing is, if you google 'teddy atlas: + homo    a link to a boxing site comes up discussing it. (The playboy piece)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.108.226 (talk) 05:07, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Fight Night
Teddy Atlas is a commentator on EA Sports' Fight Night Round 4 with Joe Tessitore. I believe he's been on a few previous versions of the game with Tessitore as well. On Tessitore's entry it says he's been the voice of Fight Night since 2004. This should be included in the Teddy Atlas entry as well, but I don't have all the details on it, so hopefully someone else can add it? Thanks :) --98.242.13.59 (talk) 15:29, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2019
Teddy Atlas created and hosts a podcast at Gotham Podcast Studio in New York City. Produced by Rob Mohr with Co-Host Ken Rideout. Teddy talks about fight sports and interviews boxing legends and the new class of fighters today including a recent interview with UFC Champion Dustin Poirier.

https://shows.pippa.io/the-fight-with-teddy-atlas

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-fight-with-teddy-atlas/id1450847408 Mxp6732 (talk) 13:39, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2019
In second paragraph under "Boxing trainer": Change end of the paragraph...

From: Moorer went on to defeat Holyfield by a majority decision.

To: Moorer went on to defeat Holyfield by a majority decision, a win that many credit to Teddy Atlas's motivation in the corner, including Moorer's manager John Davimos. After the fight Davimos stated: "I don't know if Michael could have done this without Teddy Atlas."

Source: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-04-24-sp-49843-story.html

The paragraph is a bit negative as it currently stands. To make neutral, I think it needs to add in the fact that Atlas's actions in the corner are widely seen as having given Moorer the motivation needed to win the fight. Chris.mackie02 (talk) 23:11, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done NiciVampireHeart 06:55, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

While we're doing edit requests, perhaps one that mentions Mr Atlas was Michael Moorer's trainer, and the one giving him advice from his corner, on the night George Foreman knocked out Michael Moorer ? :) 203.160.80.161 (talk) 08:23, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2019
Under "Sportscasting"

Change: "In December 2017, Atlas parted ways with ESPN after 21 years following his criticism of the judging in the Manny Pacquiao–Jeff Horn fight."

To: "In December 2017, Atlas was removed from live fights at ESPN after 21 years of ringside commentating following his criticism of the judging in the Manny Pacquiao–Jeff Horn fight. While removed from live fight analysis on the network, Atlas remains with ESPN as a boxing analysis and is in contract through the end of 2020."

Source: https://www.latimes.com/sports/boxing/la-sp-sn-boxing-teddy-atlas-20171213-story.html

This needs to be updated since Atlas is clearly still with ESPN. He's on all the time prior to the big fights. Here he is just a couple weeks ago on the network: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEEaJdgXz1Y Chris.mackie02 (talk) 23:19, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done NiciVampireHeart 07:02, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2022
In the career>other section, Willem Dafoe is referenced as William Dafoe. The link has the correct page.

Change William Dafoe to Willem Dafoe on Career>Other section 2601:192:8602:D400:ADD6:F8FA:F3C0:FDB5 (talk) 15:49, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
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