Talk:The Founding Myths of Israel

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There is more forthcoming in the coming weeks. --JaapBoBo (talk) 00:06, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment and questions by ceedjee[edit]

  • This article is dedicated to a book written by a scholar and not a specific topic. Therefore NPoV is not working as usual. I think that as background is an important information for "usual articles", a introductory section "about the Author" would also be interesting. Ceedjee (talk) 12:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The stated purpose of the book is an analysis of the ideology and actions of labor Zionism in the period before the War of Independence of 1948". I would appreciate a quote here. And even if the author uses these words in the book, I would not write "War of Independence of 1948" but rather "1948 Arab-Israeli War" or try to get a full quote using these words. Ceedjee (talk) 12:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "We are conquerers of the land facing an iron wall" !!! BG said "iron wall" This is interesting ! Didn't Sternhell make comment about that ? No comparison with the Iron Wall of Vladimir Jabotinsky ? Ceedjee (talk) 12:45, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good suggestions!
  • regarding NPOV: a criticism section is welcome. I tried in the review section, but I found no detailed criticism at all, only general statements.
  • I think Jabotinsky gave it another menaing: an iron wall of Jewish bajonets.
--JaapBoBo (talk) 23:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank youo.
  • "as a variant of socialism of which Zionism was the Jewish version"

That sentence sounds complicated to me.
I would suggest "to describe the particularity of the Jewish Socialism in the Zionist context" or something like that... (but I am reluctant in the use of the word jewish here that could be misinterpretated) Ceedjee (talk) 19:05, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sternhell's thesis is that the "particularity" of Jewish socialism is very limited, as he says "far from being unique constructive socialism was merely an Eretz Israeli version of nationalist socialism." --JaapBoBo (talk) 16:39, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article[edit]

It's very thorough for what it's about. I think this article should be rated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.182.51 (talk) 21:05, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Categories of criticism[edit]

Possible categorisations of this book include:

  • Category:Books critical of Israel
  • Category:Books critical of Zionism

either or both depending on content.
I personally interpret the categories as follows:

  • the first category as relating to criticisms of actions of the state of Israel
  • the second category as relating to criticisms of support for the existence of a Jewish homeland.

The book has been placed in "Category:Books critical of Zionism" and there are "see also" links between the two category pages.
How would the book best be categorised? Gregkaye (talk) 00:18, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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