Talk:The Founding Myths of Israel

There is more forthcoming in the coming weeks. --JaapBoBo (talk) 00:06, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Comment and questions by ceedjee

 * This article is dedicated to a book written by a scholar and not a specific topic. Therefore NPoV is not working as usual. I think that as background is an important information for "usual articles", a introductory section "about the Author" would also be interesting. Ceedjee (talk) 12:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * "The stated purpose of the book is an analysis of the ideology and actions of labor Zionism in the period before the War of Independence of 1948". I would appreciate a quote here. And even if the author uses these words in the book, I would not write "War of Independence of 1948" but rather "1948 Arab-Israeli War" or try to get a full quote using these words. Ceedjee (talk) 12:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * "We are conquerers of the land facing an iron wall" !!! BG said "iron wall" This is interesting ! Didn't Sternhell make comment about that ? No comparison with the Iron Wall of Vladimir Jabotinsky ? Ceedjee (talk) 12:45, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Good suggestions!
 * regarding NPOV: a criticism section is welcome. I tried in the review section, but I found no detailed criticism at all, only general statements.
 * I think Jabotinsky gave it another menaing: an iron wall of Jewish bajonets.
 * --JaapBoBo (talk) 23:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank youo.

That sentence sounds complicated to me. I would suggest "to describe the particularity of the Jewish Socialism in the Zionist context" or something like that... (but I am reluctant in the use of the word jewish here that could be misinterpretated) Ceedjee (talk) 19:05, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * "as a variant of socialism of which Zionism was the Jewish version"
 * Sternhell's thesis is that the "particularity" of Jewish socialism is very limited, as he says "far from being unique constructive socialism was merely an Eretz Israeli version of nationalist socialism." --JaapBoBo (talk) 16:39, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

This article
It's very thorough for what it's about. I think this article should be rated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.182.51 (talk) 21:05, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Categories of criticism
Possible categorisations of this book include: either or both depending on content.
 * Category:Books critical of Israel
 * Category:Books critical of Zionism

I personally interpret the categories as follows:
 * the first category as relating to criticisms of actions of the state of Israel
 * the second category as relating to criticisms of support for the existence of a Jewish homeland.

The book has been placed in "Category:Books critical of Zionism" and there are "see also" links between the two category pages.

How would the book best be categorised? Gregkaye (talk) 00:18, 14 August 2014 (UTC)