Talk:The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack/Archive 1

Theme song
It seems to me that the theme song is obviously based upon the traditional American folk song Big Rock Candy Mountain. This should probably be noted in one of the sections.

Dear ^^^^, While I do agree that a part of the theme song is based upon this folk song (notably "but there ain't no streams of sodie-pop goin' tricklin' down the rocks.") most of the theme song is to an entirely different melody. It is also merely trivia that a single measure of this piece and some lyrics are concurrent with the song Big Rock Candy Mountain. Richard LaBorde (talk) 20:52, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Also there is mention of a lemonade sea, and in the song "The Big Rock Candy Mountain," the lyrics state there are lemonade springs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:3C81:FC00:24FB:AD1C:8C2:B046 (talk) 06:26, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

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Mark or Thurop?
Which name are using for Van Orman's first name? There's several ghits for Thurop (even leading to his MySpace page) but few to none for Mark so clearly consensus shows Thurop being the clear name to use. What concerns me though that in the episodes of Camp Lazlo he wrote he was credited as 'Mark "Thurop" Van Orman' hence my own confusion on the matter. Clarification on this would be helpful! -- treelo talk 21:06, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I believe he grew up as Mark, then later changed his name to Thurop. He is credited as Thurop Van Orman for Flapjack, and there is an IMDB page for Thurop Van Orman. I think Thurop Van Orman should be the correct reference. JProteus (talk) 20:11, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Premier date?
Several people have added June 5 as the air date, but so far, the only given reference in the article says "Summer 2008". I find it odd that such a specific date is added by multiple people, so it sounds like there should be a citable reference for that date. Yngvarr (c) 21:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * People are saying that because someone on the Toon Zone forums mentioned this apparent airdate, I wouldn't take that as any bit official though, it's a forum. Most official we get is from the CN promo page is June alone. -- treelo talk 22:32, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I just saw a commercial on CN, and that appears to be the date. Yngvarr (c) 23:27, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * OK then, guess that date is now official. -- treelo talk 00:04, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Candy or Candied Island?
Can we get some sort of consensus on the name of the island? It's been changed a number of times in the article  just to point out a few. Yngvarr (c) 19:13, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Officially, it's Candied. treelo  radda  19:23, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah! Treelo is right, Yngvarr! I thought it was "Candy Island" at first. But, then when I saw it in closed captionining, I learned they said "candied" instead of "candy". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.243.17.185 (talk) 19:35, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well done, several months late after the issue was solved but better late than never... well, usually better. treelo  radda  19:46, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Split the Characters
The character section is now so big, It should be split into it's own topic.Speeda psx (talk · contribs) 20:30, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Not necessarily. It should be addressed, not forked. Half of the "recurring" characters should not even be listed, being mere plot devices (Sally Syrup), but the fanbois won't have it. Yngvarr (t) (c) 21:25, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

"Storyboard Driven"
The series is a storyboard-driven show, and works with Screen Novelties to produce the stop-motion and title card portions of the show.

I removed the line, "is a storyboard-driven show" from the Production section, as it's redundant. ALL animated shows are storyboard-driven. In truth, there are a lot of issues with this entire entry. It gives too much trivial information within basically every section, which only serves to dilute the actual information within unnecessary details. There's also a ton of weight being placed on facts taken from a promotional interview, which compromises the NPOV, and that needs to be fixed too. Maybe if I have time I'll try to clear this up, but I doubt it. Just understand that simply because Mr. Orman's opinion is that his show is about contrasts, or that the humor is uncomfortable, doesn't mean it is. It only means that those are his intentions. The results have to be decided from an outside point of view.


 * Given that it is (or was) the only interview (other than the video interviews) with Orman, there was not a lot of information to put together a decent set of references. If you know of any reliable source of information, by all means, work it up. The article is tagged with fansite, etc, etc, for quite so

me time because of the endless drivel that creeps in, but at least that stuff was cited. Yngvarr (t) (c) 22:52, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

actually most cartoons are writer's cartoons. meaning they re written with script where as flapjack is written without a script.


 * I'll see what I can do. ZbeeblebroxIV (talk) 22:55, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

"meaning they re written with script where as flapjack is written without a script." This seems relevant, but I would never surmise that from the statement "storyboard-driven show". Upon watching the show however, this does become very evident. I have a hard time imagine the script says "Now flapjack makes a funny face, then this other funny face, which k'nuckles makes his own face to, and flapjack responds with another funny face." XD Richard LaBorde (talk) 20:29, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Shows that are storyboard-driven means that they DRAW the episode out in a form of sequential panels rather than actually writing a script. Most cartoons on TV are written with scripts. "Flapjack" is one of the very few where it's written with drawings rather than with words Cartoon-Fan (talk) 02:56, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for keeping my Knot Clown edit. However, I am a tad concerned that is not the character's official name. I will see that if the official name of the character is announced, we will be the first to know. BTW, do you think I am crazy? LordLiberation (talk) 13:55, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I found out the character's name on the Flapjack Wiki, as you can see. I just don't know how long I will be able to "help" Wikipedia, though. Ian Fairchild (talk) 06:15, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

K'nuckles inspiration
Is there any verifiable evidence that K'nuckles' head being blue is a reference to Captain Flint from Robert Louis Stevenson's Treasure Island? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.16.253.208 (talk) 23:38, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not in the article so I guess it'd be on you to prove that. treelo  radda  23:49, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Thurop's Myspace
Thurop has a myspace which has two tracks that were created for the extro on the show but were never used. Is there a way to link this? Is it worth linking?

www.myspace.com/thuropv

Richard LaBorde (talk) 21:03, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

No character section for bubbie?
Perhaps there just isn't enough to say about her but it seems odd that, as a pretty prominent character, she doesn't have any description. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.0.225.233 (talk) 00:25, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Cancelled but ended?
What kind of status description is "Cancelled but ended"? It sounds ambigous to me. 109.228.139.154 (talk) 01:58, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Number of Episodes
It says 46 episodes here yeet on IMDB there are 69 listed in the combined episodes list. Where was this number taken from? Sttagger (talk) 06:53, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

the theme song lyrics
K'NUCKLES:flapjack hey flapjack come with me we'll go and see A place called candied island BUBBIE:who needs candied island its safer at the docks K'NUCKLES:but there aint no streams of sodie pop dripping down the rocks BUBBIE: its dangerous and risky K'NUCKLES: but adventurous and free FLAPJACK:adventure thats the life for me! GROUP OF CHARACTERS:the misadventures of... FLAPJACK: flapjack!!!!!!!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.97.71.92 (talk) 05:47, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Flapjack's age
User Hivemindnevermind has added the following information to the article, and I dispute the accuracy of the statement: "His age is not said in the show, but series creator Thurop Van Orman has stated that Flapjack is seven years old." If no reference is provided for this statement, it constitutes original research and does not belong in the article. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:16, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

My favorite birthday present!
This is kind of pointless, but just saying thank you for existing Flapjack, I'm sad to see it's canceled and all but when I was looking at the page I realized, the pilot episode aired on my 8th birthday! It's one of my favorite birthday presents :') — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.128.225.78 (talk) 02:01, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Van Orman's background
I remember hearing a distinctly different version, where he didn't "fantasize about" living by the docks, but actually did, and was forbidden to go down there by his parents but snuck out anyway to hang around various colorful sailor types. That bit about him getting shipwrecked sounds made up too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.149.81 (talk) 23:03, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

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