Talk:The Price Is Right/Archive 2

Showcase question

This seems a bit hard to understand:

If both contestants go over, nobody wins the Showcase. If the winner is within $250 of (or prior to Season 27 (September 1998), less than $100 away from) the price of his/her own showcase, he wins both showcases. If the two contestants are exactly the same distance from the actual prices (in other words, if there is a tie), each wins his/her own showcase; this has happened exactly once in the show's history. If there is a tie where the difference is within $250, both contestants win both showcases; this has never happened.

Does this mean you can go over to $250? J. M. 15:58, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

You're right -- that needed rewritten. I've taken the liberty. -TPIRFanSteve 17:04, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

International Versions

Is it about time we create an international version's article, explaining in more detail how they were/are played with detailed information on the more famous ones like, UK, Australia, Mexico.

Remlap 21:46, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Pricing Game Section

I've got a question about the pricing game section... one of the external links (GScentral) has a lot of the starting dates for pricing games... where exactly would I put those? Also, should the pricing games section be divided into retired and currently played games? It's already unwieldy as is, and there's a lot of them missing (a bunch of retired ones, really). Mo0 22:01, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

GoldenRoad.net's FAQ [1] has a more accurate list of when each game premiered. As for the pricing games, I'd wait until the active games are completed before adding any more retired ones. Right now the only active games that don't have descriptions are: Master Key, On the Spot, Poker Game, Secret "X", Side by Side, Step Up, Swap Meet, Switch?, Time is Money, and 2 For the Price of 1. But with 70+ games in the rotation and almost 100 games having been played in the history of the show, I realize that this section is getting long. Iowahwyman 01:12, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Well, I'll get cracking on those tomorrow. I guess adding just a temporary list of which games are retired and which aren't wouldn't be a bad place to start on dividing them, would it? Mo0 09:40, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I plan to upload more small photos of pricing games from the official CBS websites. Plinko 05:19, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Would it be a good idea to put the most recent air-date on each game's page? -- Eddie 16:09, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

NO. 71.31.68.107 05:50, 3 January 2006 (UTC)(Steve Gavazzi)

Probability and Records

“Questions of strategy natuarlly arise from this situation: When should you choose to spin again?”

I’d like to see someone well-versed in probability perform a more rigorous analysis. For example, assuming that the number you land on is random and assuming my calculations are correct (a big assumption), if the first spinner gets 60c in his first spin, he wins 9% of the time by staying and 16% of the time by spinning again, neglecting tying situations. I’m not sure at all about these numbers, though, which is why I ask someone more experienced for help.

On a related noted, I hope to add historical facts (eg, "This is the first time that...") that Bob Barker himself sometimes points out during the show. It would be cool to have a list of those facts on Wikipedia and they also often relate to probability. Plinko 05:23, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Good God, PLEASE don't do that. Most of those "records" that Bob mentions are made up on the spot and are totally inaccurate. User:Steve Gavazzi of Golden-Road.net 12:20 ET, 27 May 2005

Shouldn't that fact be noted someplace? Somebody could come here after a Barker Record looking for info on that. Frackintoaster 14:40, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Really?? Okay, that's good to know. Plinko 23:04, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Try asking at [2], Probability forum. You'll probably find some takers. - PhilipR 13:06, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I hadn't seen this request when I posted the optimal strategy, but I hope I did a decent job of hitting the high points. I did the full analysis and then looked through old Usenet threads and found an earlier example whose end results matched my own. --JMike, 17:02 ET, 13 Jan 2006

Is: Major word

I thought for the purposes of English capitalization, "Is" was a major word. Shouldn't all words in the article's (and game show's) title be capitalized? - PhilipR 13:04, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Good point, in fact the official CBS website currently capitalizes "Is." Perhaps people have historically based the lowercase "is" on the the logo. I vote for capital "Is." Plinko 18:38, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Is should be capitalized, since it is a verb and not an article or preposition, with those two not being capitalized. See Talk:My Name Is Earl. It's the same deal for that show and its article. --/ɛvɪs/ /tɑːk/ /kɑntɹɪbjuʃ(ə)nz/ 16:21, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Update: The official website no longer capitalizes "is". RadioKirk 18:47, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Then the official website is wrong – just like it usually is. 71.31.68.107 23:42, 23 December 2005 (UTC) (Steve Gavazzi)

Showcase Showdown: Bonus Spin

What year did they introduce the bonus spin (creation of the two green spaces and the $10,000 prize)?

As far as is known, the bonus spin was added sometime around December of 1978. --Steve Gavazzi

Showcase tie?

A recent edit by 67.140.39.183 indicates that there has never been a tie in the Showcase, while the previous revision says it happened exactly once. I'm curious as to whether anyone can cite a source for this one way or another. (I'm not implying vandalism or anything; just wondering where the information comes from.) SFT 18:28, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

According to multiple people on the newsgroup alt.tv.game-shows, there was a tie on the '70s nighttime run. We can't actually confirm it either way, since Bob's fur ban includes all of that run's episodes, but the general consensus is that it happened. --Steve Gavazzi

Forgive my ignorance, but how would a ban on fur affect the ability to confirm it? Or is it a ban on episodes featuring fur? Apofisu 21:08, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Unfortunately, yes, that's what it means. No daytime shows with fur coats are allowed to be aired, nor is any episode at all from the '70s nighttime run. 71.31.68.107 04:45, 26 December 2005 (UTC)(Steve Gavazzi)

Who composed the main theme?

It says Sheila Cole in one place and Bob Cobert in another. Which one is correct?

According to everything I've ever heard from anyone who knows anything about this topic, the composer was Sheila Cole. In fact, this is the first time I've ever even heard "Price's theme" and "Bob Cobert" mentioned in the same discussion. 67.140.39.183 03:26, 16 December 2005 (UTC) (Steve Gavazzi)

In a conversation I had with Edd Kalehoff over the phone, he told me that it was actually he who was responsible for the theme. According to Kalehoff, who was working for Score Productions at the time, Score Productions head Robert Israel took credit for every composition to come out of the company, including the TPIR theme. In addition, he says that "Sheila Cole" was a nonexistent front name used by Israel. In fact, he told me that his credit in the early episodes was given to him by Mark Goodson, who felt sorry for the fact that Kalehoff had composed all of the music for the show and wasn't getting any of the credit. --Jeffrey Gray

I'm undoing Mr. Gray's edit, as well as any reverts to it that he might make in the future. He's well-known in the game show community for spouting "information" that is completely untrue. TPIRFanSteve 02:37, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

No, not this time. I admit I used to pass speculation off as information, but I am long past that. The last time I was ever involved with the game show community was over 5 years ago, and I have matured a great deal since. I greatly regret the things I said back then. I will tell you that I am not lying or fibbing in any way. I really did have a phone conversation with Edd Kalehoff, and was given this information. Also, someone on alt.tv.game-shows once said that he spoke with music coordinator Stanley Blits, and that Blits also insisted that Kalehoff wrote the theme. Furthermore, CBS' official page says: "Theme: "The Price Is Right Theme" by Edd Kalehoff for Score Productions", and there's only been one theme from the beginning up to today. However, it all comes back to what Kalehoff told me; though memories might be wrong (e.g., I think Cole does exist; Israel's wife IIRC), he made a pretty good case for his having done the theme. It didn't sound like just another disgruntled guy with an axe to grind... --Jeffrey Gray

You'll forgive me if I continue not to believe a word you say. If this were true, I would think someone a more solid reputation, such as one of the Mackey brothers, would have learned about it by now. TPIRFanSteve 22:07, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Mackey brothers? IIRC? Who did it, because I'm sure as anything that Kalehoff didn't come in until the late 70's. He would've probably been about 20. 71.111.215.224 21:53, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Um...whatever. Kalehoff wrote music for Concentration in 1973, so you clearly don't know what you're talking about. -TPIRFanSteve 00:40, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't know how old Kalehoff is. Who are the Mackey brothers? 71.111.215.224 16:43, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I saw an old Dennis James episode. Apparently in the credits, Kalehoff was the music director. (It's the same episode where Johnny O describes "a BEEEEEEEEUTIFUL new station wagon".) 71.111.232.40 00:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Separating Articles

Shouldn't we have two separate articles, one for the Cullen Version and one for the Barker Version? We should say (1956 show) and (1972 show) for the different articles. Also, they should both link to the separate article somewhere in each of them. Wikider 01:43, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Why? SFT | Talk 05:59, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

I have to agree with The Penultimate Trombone: That's why articles like this one have subsections. RadioKirk talk to me 06:04, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Why not? The shows were substantially different. The version hosted by Bill Cullen had more expensive prizes on offer in the bidding portion, as well as having the different bonus games. The current version is different, and both should have separate pages. When you say "I watched 'The Price is Right' today, chances are that you didn't mean the version hosted by Bill. TLEberle 20:57, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Price is Right ITV special?

When ITV celebrated its 50th birthday not too long ago it revisited some of its earlier games shows, including Bruce's Price is Right. I wasn't sure where to add this information. Also, it was hosted by Ant and Dec. Zooba 20:18, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

That information is already listed here. 71.31.67.115 02:59, 26 January 2006 (UTC) (Steve Gavazzi)

PRIME Question

Under the PRIME repeats section is listed:

"episodes pre-empted in their original East Coast CBS airings do not air on Prime. However, the network does try to get the pre-empted episodes directly from the producers, though there have been some cases in which the tapes they received were actually rough versions of the episodes that had not yet been edited into the final product."

Can anyone confirm that this is actually what the network does in attempting to get pre-empted episodes?

Sound effects

Does anyone know a link any where to a soundbaord or anything that contains sound effects from the show. I am look for that sound when someone gets a game wrong. If anyone know any links it would be much appreacted. I beleave its called the loosing horn 68.49.75.128 18:57, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Try "losing horns". :-P

Anyway, try Jay Lewis's site. It's got the horns and a bunch of other sounds effects, too. -TPIRFanSteve 03:39, 10 April 2006 (UTC)