Talk:The Ren & Stimpy Show/Archive 4

Original run

There needs to be a consensus about what is considered the series' "original run". The series debuted on Nickelodeon. Soon afterward, the series began airing on MTV. The series concluded on Nickelodeon on 1995-12-16 with "A Scooter for Yaksmas". Almost a year later, the series concluded on MTV with an episode that did not air on Nickelodeon, "Sammy and Me / The Last Temptation". I cannot find a guideline on Wikipedia that describes what's a series' "original run", but I tend to see the MTV run as a different run from Nickelodeon's, and hence not the original run. IsaacAA (talk) 15:41, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I would tend to agree that it seems like two runs: the first on Nick, the second on MTV. The original would be the Nick run. This could be clarified (if it's not already) in the article, and should anyone feel the need to clarify it in the infobox, I wouldn't be inclined to change it. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:02, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

You're right. Spongebob tales of a sudden death (talk) 21:46, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

You're right. Spongebob tales of a sudden death (talk) 21:47, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake. Spongebob tales of a sudden death (talk) 21:47, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Broadcast in the UK and other places

I know its been archived but I still wish to make this point rather clear, and I still dont know how to move forward. Main point is we have details as to when it was broadcast in the USA, but no where else, In other countries there took the view this was NO kids cartoon. I do still believe BBC time slots should be noted as there did not treat this series as a kids programme

The series premiered in the UK on the BBC, who never regarded Ren & Stimpy as a kid's cartoon, felt it would be better suited in a non Children slot, with episodes being broadcast in the early evening and late at night, to serve the teenage/adult market, especial for its "Ultra violence and surreal humour".[1] Originally part of the DEF II strand, the First Episode was broadcast on 10 January 1994 on BBC Two,[1][2] along with the 11 other epsodies from the First and second series( on Monday at 18.25 and a repeat after midnight on a Friday)[1] By the end of its first run, the series had gained Cult status,[3] Rest of series 2 was broadcast from 9 May - 20 June 1995, at 19.10. When Series 3 and 4 and part of series 5 were broadcast between 2 January - 1 June 1996, the BBC continued to utilizes the early evening slot at 19.10 for the tone down version of Ren and stimpy, he rest of Series 5 between May - June 1997, with repeates continuling until 1998 Nickelodeon UK started the series in 1994 just after the BBC, and continued to broadcast the series until 2000, unlike the BBC episodes appeared all manner of the day.

[1] Joy, Joy, Joy!: STEVAN KEANE on America's last but one cartoon phenomenaKeane, StevanThe Guardian (1959-2003); Jan 8, 1994; ProQuest Historical Newspapers: The Guardian (1821-2003)

[2] http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2011/feb/11/the-ren-and-stimpy-show

[3] http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/television--hehheh-hehheh-hehheh-beavis-and-butthead-enjoy-sniffing-paintthinner-setting-fire-to-things-and-torturing-frogs-other-interests-television-bon-jovi-and-snot-typical-lads-according-to-john-lyttle-who-ahead-of-the-pairs-arrival-on-channel-4-takes-a-look-at-their-predecessors-and-ponders-the-appeal-of-never-growing-up-1432183.html

one comment was the "Sources are dubious too." never heard that abotu Two broadsheet newspapers. I'll admit its may be a but sloppy, but for some unknown reason even so I cant included Off line refs to the times either, --Crazyseiko (talk) 22:44, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

The dates are completely superfluous, but the sources are good. They could go in the reception section, you need to properly format the citations - no bare URLs, proper use of the cite template. I've added The Independent. "Joy, Joy, Joy" looks interesting, wish I could find it. IsaacAA (talk) 09:33, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Zappa!!!

Frank Zappa voiced the Pope in the episode Powdered Toast Man, he's credited on the intro of that episode.

It would be a nice addition to the article considering how big the two cults are — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.220.233.210 (talk) 02:54, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Genre revisited

Re this edit by IsaacAA, though I think it's great that references were finally added for this, it strikes me that none of these are valid TV genres. We don't open the TV Guide and see "absurdist humor" in the primetime lineup. "Comedy" seems intuitive and easily referenced. "Animation" as well, although some feel this is not a genre. The microgenres—in this case the types of humor employed—seem best suited for inclusion in prose, not in the infobox, IMO. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:55, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

I agree. IsaacAA (talk) 04:09, 2 August 2015 (UTC)