Talk:The World Well Lost

Was there any homophobic treatment of homosexuality in earlier SF (earlier than 1953)? Does anyone have any examples? Cbdorsett 09:17, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

- As far as I'm aware (which isn't that much really) homosexuality was simply not there, unless you count possible homosocial or inferential homosexuality in SF hero fiction. Homophobia requires admitting the existence of homosexuality. MWL 150.203.2.85 05:32, 2 February 2007 (UTC) -- Update: see Odd John 130.56.65.24 06:36, 21 August 2007 (UTC)MWL


 * Or see the Homosexuality in SF and List of gay SF articles :-)

Rootes
The story synopsis and my interpretation of the story doesn't quite mix. As I understand the story, Rootes is as erotically attached to Grunty as Grunty is to Rootes — only more thoroughly repressed. I base that on Rootes exaggerated heterosexuality: he brags about having sex with prostitutes, demands pornography (gets a book on Michelangelo's statues) and rants about fairies and queens. And on the story's assertion that the bond is mutual, but that only Grunty knows what it is.

The story's theme of social conventions forcing you to hide your inner desires (the gentle poet even plots to kill the Loverbirds when he realizes they are telepathic) makes this interpretation of Rootes quite likely, I think. And it makes the story more interesting.

But I have no references. JöG 06:50, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

- That's something I hadn't picked up on in that. It's quite a valid interpretation, and perhaps one that could be included on the main page. 130.56.65.24 06:36, 21 August 2007 (UTC)MWL

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(Ref 1) Universe and Other Worlds
This (Ref 1) sentence about Universe and Other Worlds is incorrect -- "'Universe Science Fiction', published by Palmer Publications, Inc., was a new name for 'Other Worlds' (q.v.) in June, 1953. It had ten issues before Palmer reverted its name in 1955." As correctly explained in the Wikipedia article on Other Worlds: "Recovering from an accident in 1953, Palmer suspended Other Worlds with the 31st issue (July 1953). He took over the magazine Universe Science Fiction (previously edited for two issues by George Bell). At the same time, Palmer began a short-lived companion titled Science Stories (1953-54). Universe ran for ten issues until March 1955 when Palmer changed the title to Other Worlds while continuing the numeration of Universe. It ran for another 12 issues as Other Worlds with Palmer introducing more material about UFOs. From May 1955 until May 1957 the publishing firm was given as Palmer Publications in Evanston, Illinois." Ths gets _really_ complex because Palmer produced a magazine called "Flying Saucers from Other Worlds" (June, July, Aug and Oct 1957) which pretended to be an SF mag (though it wasn't) but its _final_ all-fiction issue, Oct 1957, was actually (internally) "Other Worlds" for October 1957 http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?OWSCSTSEP1957 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.105.47.130 (talk) 13:42, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

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