Talk:Third Avenue Railway

The following companies seem to have been part of the system in Manhattan:
 * Third Avenue Railway: Third Avenue Line
 * Central Park, North and East River Railroad: First Avenue and East Belt Line, West Belt Line, and 59th Street Crosstown Line
 * Dry Dock, East Broadway and Battery Railroad: Avenue B Line and Canal and Grand Street Ferry Line
 * Forty-Second Street, Manhattanville and St. Nicholas Avenue Railway: 42nd Street Crosstown Line? 125th Street Crosstown Line?? Broadway Branch Line??
 * Kingsbridge Railway: Kingsbridge Line?
 * One-Hundred and Twenty-Fifth Street Railroad?: 125th Street Crosstown Line

--NE2 04:40, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

These were the Manhattan line names in later days:
 * 10 10th Avenue (appears to have run from the west end of 42nd Street north on 10th Avenue, Amsterdam Avenue, and Broadway - to end where? ran at least to LaSalle Street, so probably ended at the west end of 125th Street)
 * B Broadway (used 42nd Street - )
 * K Broadway, Amsterdam Avenue and 125th Street
 * T 3rd and Amsterdam Avenues (longest line, City Hall to Fort George)
 * X 42nd Street Crosstown
 * X 59th Street Crosstown
 * X 125th Street Crosstown

--NE2 13:31, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

has some information on 125th Street. --NE2 15:05, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

There was also a Broadway and 145th Street Line: Apparently this was one of the last three lines to be abandoned, along with Broadway-Kingsbridge and 125th Street Crosstown. --NE2 15:11, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Here's a map that should help: --NE2 16:07, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

And some other lines, from : --NE2 16:17, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
 * They did in fact operate the Broadway Branch Line, which later became the Broadway Line
 * Avenue B Line
 * Post Office-Brooklyn Line
 * Grand Street Line
 * 110th Street Crosstown Line

The Dry Dock, East Broadway and Battery Railroad operated four lines in 1928: the Avenue B Line, Grand Street Line, Grand Street and Brooklyn Line, and Post Office and Brooklyn Line. --NE2 17:11, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

1897 list of lines
This is from a Brooklyn Daily Eagle article on April 2, 1897 page 3. Line names were added by me. --NE2 10:41, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Owned
 * City Hall via Third avenue to One Hundred and Thirtieth street 8.25 Third Avenue Line
 * North river to One Hundred and Twenty-fifth street, East River 2.50 125th Street Crosstown Line
 * Tenth avenue, One Hundred and Twenty-fifth street to One Hundred and Eighty-sixth street 3.25 Amsterdam Avenue part of Third and Amsterdam Avenues Line
 * Second track 14.00
 * Sidings .375


 * [presumably these were leased, probably all from the Forty-second Street, Manhattanville and St. Nicholas Avenue Railway]
 * Forty-second street, North river, to East river 1.97 42nd Street Crosstown Line
 * Fifty-ninth street via Tenth avenue to Manhattan street 3.29 apparently the Tenth Avenue Line continued along Amsterdam Avenue all the way to 125th Street - was this the four tracks on Amsterdam Avenue referred to in other articles?
 * Forty-second street via Seventh avenue to Boulevard, etc 4.02 Broadway Line minus the trackage between Columbus and Amsterdam Avenues?
 * North river, Manhattan street, St. Nicholas avenue, One Hundred and Tenth street, to East river 2.76 110th Street Crosstown Line
 * Branches .41
 * Second track 12.45

Broadway cars began turning east on 42nd Street on either February 10 or February 17, 1908: ("last Monday" from Wednesday, February 19) --NE2 04:28, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

"Family tree"
This 1920 book has some information.
 * Third Avenue Railroad, leased to Metropolitan Street Railway April 13, 1900
 * One Hundred and Twenty-fifth Street Railroad, leased to 3ARR December 1870; bought by 3ARR April 23, 1886
 * Forty-Second Street, Manhattanville and St. Nicholas Avenue Railroad, bought by 3ARR November 1895; sold to MSRY soon; separated February 1, 1908; transferred to 3ARy March 1, 1912
 * Dry Dock, East Broadway and Battery Railroad, bought by 3ARR August 1897
 * Kingsbridge Railway
 * Union Railway, bought by 3ARR January 1898
 * Harlem Bridge, Morrisania and Fordham Railway, merged into URy July 5, 1892
 * North Third Avenue and Fleetwood Park Railway, merged into URy July 5, 1892
 * Melrose and West Morrisania Railroad, merged into URy July 5, 1892
 * Westchester Electric Railroad, bought by URy; leased by URy June 1, 1893? (connected NYC, Mount Vernon, New Rochelle, Bronxville, Tuckahoe, Larchmont, Pelham, and Pelham Manor; controlled by Third Avenue Railway)
 * Mount Vernon and Eastchester Railway, merged into WERR July 2, 1893?
 * New Rochelle Railway and Transit Company, merged into WERR July 2, 1893?
 * Bronx Traction Company, URy operating agreement
 * West Farms and Westchester Traction Company, bought by URy; merged into BTCo May 12, 1904
 * Wakefield and Westchester Traction Company, bought by URy; merged into BTCo May 12, 1904
 * Williamsbridge and Westchester Traction Company, bought by URy; merged into BTCo May 12, 1904
 * Van Nest, West Farms and Westchester Traction Company, bought by URy; merged into BTCo May 12, 1904
 * Suburban Traction Company, bought by URy; merged into BTCo May 12, 1904
 * Southern Boulevard Railroad, bought by 3ARR; operated by URy
 * Yonkers Railroad, bought by 3ARR 1898 (controlled by Third Avenue Railway)
 * Tarrytown, White Plains and Mamaroneck Railway (became Westchester Street Railroad Mamaroneck to Tarrytown and White Plains to Scarsdale and Shore Line Electric Railroad Mamaroneck to Larchmont in 1909 - latter leased to former; controlled by NYNH&H)


 * People's Traction Company


 * New York, Westchester and Connecticut Traction Company


 * Jerome Park Railway


 * New York City Interborough Railway, bought by 3ARR 1912


 * I kind of feel like there should be a template for all these lines and companies. -User:DanTD (talk) 13:09, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

TATS
In its later years, the company name was Third Avenue Transit System. How should this be worked into the article? n2xjk (talk) 20:30, 1 December 2010 (UTC)