Talk:Thomas Andrews

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Was Andrews a Protestant or a Catholic? The article doesn't say. Dolmance (talk) 20:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

This has been rewritten, but the rewrite has removed Thomas Andrews as being the chief designer which is contrary to the books other sources I have on the subject which state him as having been the chief designer. Ben W Bell 9 July 2005 07:47 (UTC)
 * I hopefully clarified Andrew's involvement MechBrowman July 9, 2005 15:28 (UTC)

The rewrite is correct. The main designers of the Olympic class ships were Lord William Pirrie, Alexander Carlisle, Thomas Andrews and Edward Wilding, in that order. The role of Andrews was much exaggerated by his many admirers after his death. Dave Gittins.

"Right Honourable"
Although the article is not about the father, it would be a good detail to amend the mention of Andrews' father so as to indicate how he came by the "Right Honourable" title ... was he a politician, a baron, what? Lawikitejana 19:59, 28 January 2007 (UTC)


 * According to this page, he was a member of the Privy Council of Ireland; privy counsellors were entitled to the style (not title) of "Right Honourable". -- Charlene  09:55, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I know Ireland's green, but...
Does anyone have access to a photograph of Andrews that isn't quite as green as the one we have? Every time I check this page for subtle vandalism I feel like I'm checking on the Grinch who Stole Christmas. I have a photograph in an old Titanic book but I don't have a proper scanner. -- Charlene 07:06, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

number of the dead?
it says 1496 in this article, but in other passengers articles it says 1517.

1496 is correct according to modern research by Lester Mitcham and others. Figures from the two inquiries and from contemporary newspapers are incorrect.

Dave Gittins

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William Barnes
Is it okay to mention at least on the talk page, that William Barnes believes he was Thomas Andrew in his past life and wrote a book on the Secrets of Building the Titanic? --173.170.134.224 (talk) 20:50, 27 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Who? Canterbury Tail   talk  00:42, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Three sentence summary of one random film portrayal
The article lists 14 portrayals of Andres in films about the Titanic. Excessive? Probably. We do not have a list of random appearances of Richard Nixon in film. More to the point, an IP editor has repeatedly restored a three sentence summary of Andrews' appearance in one of the films. Why that one? I guess the editor has seen that one. What does it tell us about Andrews? Nothing. Any reason we should have this brief summary of the scene in one of the 14 films, selected at random? - Sum mer PhD v2.0 16:02, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Due to persistent edit warring and block evasion by the IP, the article is now protected. Any user who is not currently blocked is welcome to comment. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 03:24, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

"Belfast, Ireland"
Is there a reason why it says "Belfast, Ireland" instead of "Belfast, Northern Ireland" in the lead section?


 * Yes. Because it was Belfast, Ireland during Andrew's lifetime. Northern Ireland didn't exists until 9 years after his death. Canterbury Tail   talk  12:02, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 14 July 2016

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The result of the move request was: Moved as clear consensus has been established. &mdash; Music1201  talk  02:20, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

– Thomas Andrews (shipbuilder) is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. He gets the most page views, with 1,363 a day according to the tool - others do not have much over 10. As the man who designed the Titanic, he has high educational significance.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 00:27, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thomas Andrews (shipbuilder) → Thomas Andrews
 * Thomas Andrews → Thomas Andrews (disambiguation)
 * Support. Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 14:01, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Really, there's nothing else to say. Dschslava  Δx  parlez moi  04:28, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Support. Clear primary topic in terms of page views and historical significance. PC78 (talk) 16:57, 15 July 2016 (UTC)


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Andrews and the painting
In Bullock's book, he mentioned that Andrews was standing in a state of shock in the first class smoking room, but didn't mention the painting and wrote "what did he see" and "whatever he saw". Walter Lord mentioned the painting in his book, and that probably derived into later movies. It seems that the 'extra' detail about the painting was just an imaginative addition to Stewart's account that was tacked onto it by Lord who felt a need to 'pin down' the exact cause of Andrew's "stood like one stunned". 2.97.27.181 (talk) 20:57, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 February 2021
Contents 3.1 Death. Sentence "Although this has become one of the most famous individuals of the Titanic disaster" does not make sense re: "individuals", since the sentence is not referring to Andrews himself but rather to the circumstances surrounding his death. Previous version ("Although this has become one of the most famous legends of the sinking of the Titanic") makes grammatical sense. Could also use "stories" or "tales" as replacement for "individuals". 2A00:23C7:99AE:6300:F004:8296:314D:13DF (talk) 18:21, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 2 July 2023
Lists birthplace as Ireland. This is inaccurate and should say United Kingdom. 77.98.158.25 (talk) 18:40, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Not done. It is correct, as Ireland was a constituent country of the United Kingdom, like Wales, Scotland and England. Canterbury Tail talk 18:43, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

Dispelling the # of lifeboats myth
There is currently no reliable source that Thomas Andrews requested a greater number of lifeboats while designing the Titanic, so I am seeking to remove this claim from the article. We currently cite the Titanic fanpage of a self-described amateur historian which is an unreliable source for obvious reasons. While pop media sites frequently regurgitate this apocryphal claim, I can find no backing in published histories or peer-reviewed sources. One reliable source I have found names Alexander Carlisle as requesting more lifeboats and does not mention Andrews at all in this matter [see John P. Eaton, Titanic: Triumph and Tragedy (1995), pp. 205 & 259]. TelepathicTwelve (talk) 19:29, 14 February 2024 (UTC)


 * As per WP:UGC I have gone ahead and removed the fansite's claims. I welcome someone to find a reliable source on this question. TelepathicTwelve (talk) 17:07, 17 February 2024 (UTC)